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Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

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Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

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I feel like all these messaging applications eventually mess up somehow. The one I keep coming back to is Telegram.

You do realise Telegram isn’t secure (non-e2ee), is Russian owned and is based in the Middle East. Enjoy whatever privacy that provides.

Based in the Middle East instead of Russia, because the founders specifically care about avoiding Russian government censorship

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

#252
post #190

I get their reasoning that SMS is insecure and you don't want to accidentially send an SMS. I use Signal mostly for "confidential" things, but every now and then for the occasional person who contacts me there. So Signal is my "secure" app, Whatsapp my "family" app, and so on. It's really weird if a family member shows up in my secure activism chat app. It would make more sense if there was one codebase that supporte…

Beeper is working on it. We'll see how it turns out. Matrix Bridges might also be a good option.

Those are kind of the same thing, though (Beeper is all Matrix + open source bridges under the hood)

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

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I'm surprised at how much backlash there is to this.

I've had Signal since shortly after it renamed itself from TextSecure to Signal, and I never bothered using it as the default SMS/Messaging app, because back then it was a bad SMS app. It felt like it paled in comparison to what the default Android Messages app could do. I didn't want to get the false impression, either, that my chats were encrypted when they really weren't, just because they shows up in Signal.

So I kept the two separate. I assumed pretty much everyone else did the same. And yeah, there's the occasional oddity when someone texts me over SMS instead of using Signal when I know for a fact that they have both, but most of the people doing it are using iPhones, so I have to assume it's the same experience for them as well.

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

#254

Outside I think mostly the US, SMS is basically only used for spam and 2fa messages. I can't remember the last time I communicated with someone via SMS to be honest. To hear that people use it in group chats is mind boggling to me.

I'm with you. Totally confused about the outcry and use cases. Sounds like the 90s over here.

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

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I've been using Signal for a long time. I have repeatedly been unable to convince iOS users to use Signal because "I don't want another app". Android users have been much more willing to give it a shot. As an android user myself, I much prefer having SMS built in because I use the search feature often to look back through all my SMS/Signal chats. I also regularly forward an SMS message to a Signal user, or vice versa…

Yes, this is an idiotic decision that makes me question the decisions being made as a whole by Signal. Does anyone have recommendations for a good default SMS app on Android?

SMS Organizer by Microsoft

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft....

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this is an idiotic decision that makes me question the decisions being made as a whole by Signal. Does anyone have recommendations for a good default SMS app on Android?

The Google Messages app is pretty good. It's a little thing, but it's the only app that supports tapbacks from iOS -- so on the (many) group threads I'm on that have iPhone users, I can see loves/like reactions instead of a flood of texts that say "Jane Doe loved an image".

It's terrible. Every once in a while they decide to convince me that I really don't want to be sending an SMS but I want to use google's messenger of the month, that will inevitably be gone next month.

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

#257

Cue the "actually we didn't mean that" follow-up to this.

Thing is, now they've shown a willingness to make this change, so from here on out people will be worried about them trying it again at some point.

The only way they have a hope of putting this genie back in the bottle is to provide a loud, strong, clear mea culpa, stating that they were categorically wrong to propose dropping SMS support, plus a strong promise that they will continue supporting SMS for the life of the product. Maybe something along the lines of, "if we ever propose dropping SMS integration again, you can consider that a warrant-canary type of alert".

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

#258

I've been using Signal for a long time. I have repeatedly been unable to convince iOS users to use Signal because "I don't want another app". Android users have been much more willing to give it a shot. As an android user myself, I much prefer having SMS built in because I use the search feature often to look back through all my SMS/Signal chats. I also regularly forward an SMS message to a Signal user, or vice versa…

There's another reason for iOS users to avoid Signal: It eats up Gigabytes of storage space, refuses to ever clear it, and the devs are rather resistant to accepting that it's even a problem at all: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/4916

Weird. Signal is my primary messaging app (on iOS) and I'm sitting at 196MB storage used.

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using QKSMS on Android 12 and haven't had any problems in about a year of use. I think its on Google Play as well. https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=com.moez.QKSMS

Last commit was a year ago. Do you know if it is still being developed?

Doesn't look good... https://github.com/moezbhatti/qksms/issues/1881

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

#260

I've been using Signal for a long time. I have repeatedly been unable to convince iOS users to use Signal because "I don't want another app". Android users have been much more willing to give it a shot. As an android user myself, I much prefer having SMS built in because I use the search feature often to look back through all my SMS/Signal chats. I also regularly forward an SMS message to a Signal user, or vice versa…

There's another reason for iOS users to avoid Signal: It eats up Gigabytes of storage space, refuses to ever clear it, and the devs are rather resistant to accepting that it's even a problem at all: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/4916

Since there’s no server storing media, consider saving the stuff you want and dumping all the old photos and video you don’t. It’s a more secure communication tool, not an archive.
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