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Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

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Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

#241

I've been using Signal for a long time. I have repeatedly been unable to convince iOS users to use Signal because "I don't want another app". Android users have been much more willing to give it a shot. As an android user myself, I much prefer having SMS built in because I use the search feature often to look back through all my SMS/Signal chats. I also regularly forward an SMS message to a Signal user, or vice versa…

There's another reason for iOS users to avoid Signal: It eats up Gigabytes of storage space, refuses to ever clear it, and the devs are rather resistant to accepting that it's even a problem at all: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/4916

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

#242

I've been using Signal for a long time. I have repeatedly been unable to convince iOS users to use Signal because "I don't want another app". Android users have been much more willing to give it a shot. As an android user myself, I much prefer having SMS built in because I use the search feature often to look back through all my SMS/Signal chats. I also regularly forward an SMS message to a Signal user, or vice versa…

The biggest issue I can see with using two separate apps is checking who's on Signal and who isn't. That means opening up Signal to see if they're on there and then switching to SMS if they aren't. I much prefer having both types of contacts in the same UI and it's been obvious to me which messages are secure. Also, when someone then joins Signal, subsequent messages to them automatically get upgraded to being secure with no effort on my part.

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

#243

I've been using Signal for a long time. I have repeatedly been unable to convince iOS users to use Signal because "I don't want another app". Android users have been much more willing to give it a shot. As an android user myself, I much prefer having SMS built in because I use the search feature often to look back through all my SMS/Signal chats. I also regularly forward an SMS message to a Signal user, or vice versa…

Yes, this is an idiotic decision that makes me question the decisions being made as a whole by Signal. Does anyone have recommendations for a good default SMS app on Android?

Posted elsewhere in this thread but...

Personally like TextraSMS. Has a free ad-supported version, but I paid to remove ads when it was on sale several years ago (maybe $1).

4.4 stars. I believe it's $3 or $5 to remove ads now.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.textra

Also surprised me the other day when a friend used an iOS reaction, and it applied it correctly on my end.

> Added support for Reactions (also known as Tapbacks) received from iOS Apple devices.

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

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post #172

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You do realise Telegram isn’t secure (non-e2ee), is Russian owned and is based in the Middle East. Enjoy whatever privacy that provides.

Mmm... You can use end-to-end encryption with Telegram if security is your main concern. I don't see how it being "Russian owned" is of any concern, but if you feel like privacy is an issue then you're free to claim their $300,000 prize at stake or just take part of their ongoing bug bounty programme and be rewarded by spotting flaws.

Don't need to rely on a vulnerability or flaw, when you own/have the keys to the kingdom as it stands.

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

#246

I've been using Signal for a long time. I have repeatedly been unable to convince iOS users to use Signal because "I don't want another app". Android users have been much more willing to give it a shot. As an android user myself, I much prefer having SMS built in because I use the search feature often to look back through all my SMS/Signal chats. I also regularly forward an SMS message to a Signal user, or vice versa…

...and there I am here in Germany where nobody seems to use SMS anymore.

I couldn't care less about this.

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

#247
post #55

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Signal seem to have adopted the "Decisions, not Options"[^1] route way too well, so don't act surprised. This is why we need at least open source clients that can be forked when these decisions are made. [^1]: https://wordpress.org/about/philosophy/

I have never understood why decisions and options have to be mutually exclusive. Yes, you want to have a rock-solid, thoughtfully-design default install for new and casual users. You can still have an advanced control panel with everything a power user could want.

It's not mutually exclusive at all, see KDE, but it takes more time, and people will have the option to mess it all up.

Taking that factor away - allowing people to mess it up - makes it easier for developers.

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

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post #202

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Correction, you dont need the privacy* Telegram is absolutely the worst when it comes to privacy, it has access to everything you do and say. If you want a master app, have a lot at matrix.org with bridges.

That's false: Telegram doesn't have access to secret chats.

Don't they store the decryption keys?

Re: Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)

#250
post #44

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> Why do I need 3 apps (Android Messages, Signal, Whatsapp) to talk to people? Because Whatsapp and Signal are walled gardens. (Everyone knows why IM>sms)

> Whatsapp and Signal are walled gardens. Until next year? https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220701IP...

No. Secrecy will have backdoor keys, but that is not what walled garden means: it means more like people have no power over the decisions made in the garden.
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