Ask HN: Is the Zig programming language dead?

#1

Post by chris2860 » Wed, Oct 12, 2022, 9:58 AM UTC

I noticed that development of the Zig programming language has come to a complete stop since this summer:

https://imgur.com/M09Nkx9

Also half the things listed in the roadmap from 2018:

https://andrewkelley.me/post/full-time-zig.html

haven't been implemented yet.

And there haven't been financial reports for the Zig Software Foundation for the last 9 months:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14_ljFHGFXY5NhBhlfjgkO0RZHqeVv04fAmCxw3ZusYc

Does anyone know if the project has been abandoned?

Re: Ask HN: Is the Zig programming language dead?

#2

Post by cabirum » Wed, Oct 12, 2022, 10:13 AM UTC

Doesn't look dead for me.

A bunch of things not updated due to resource shortage, methinks.

https://github.com/ziglang/zig/graphs/contributors

Re: Ask HN: Is the Zig programming language dead?

#3

Post by rurban » Wed, Oct 12, 2022, 11:08 AM UTC

https://github.com/ziglang/zig/commits/master daily commits, certainly not dead

Re: Ask HN: Is the Zig programming language dead?

#4

Post by sobeston » Wed, Oct 12, 2022, 4:26 PM UTC

I actually saw multiple people in the Zig core team (and others) actively working on the Zig compiler in person this weekend! Development may have slowed in the last 2 weeks or so because of the SYCL conference; given the turnout I can assure you that there is no decline in people working with or on Zig long-term. If you look at the commits, issues, or the stage 2 meetings (normally held every thursday in the discord), you would also see that the project isn't on the decline. You're correct that the financial reports of the ZSF aren't up to date - these are updated manually so you can expect some delay.

I'm assuming you're the same person that made multiple new stack overflow accounts recently to ask (and answer, on a different account) this question here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/74040564/is-the-zig-prog... (since removed by moderators).

My question to you is: Why are you trying to force this false narrative?

Re: Ask HN: Is the Zig programming language dead?

#5

Post by sobeston » Wed, Oct 12, 2022, 4:35 PM UTC

sobeston wrote: post #4

I actually saw multiple people in the Zig core team (and others) actively working on the Zig compiler in person this weekend! Development may have slowed in the last 2 weeks or so because of the SYCL conference; given the turnout I can assure you that there is no decline in people working with or on Zig long-term. If you look at the commits, issues, or the stage 2 meetings (normally held every thursday in the discord…

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/y1zuzv/is... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskProgramming/comments/y1zwan/is_t...

Assuming this is you also. There were commits to Zig less than an hour before you posted this.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Zig programming language dead?

#6

Post by Existenceblinks » Wed, Oct 12, 2022, 5:08 PM UTC

This is only my assumption but your profile is quite suspicious. Quite a new account. Asked for financial report (looks fine to me) but combined with this and a couple reddit posts. Hm..

Re: Ask HN: Is the Zig programming language dead?

#7

Post by chris2860 » Wed, Oct 12, 2022, 9:39 PM UTC

sobeston wrote: post #5

sobeston wrote: post #4

I actually saw multiple people in the Zig core team (and others) actively working on the Zig compiler in person this weekend! Development may have slowed in the last 2 weeks or so because of the SYCL conference; given the turnout I can assure you that there is no decline in people working with or on Zig long-term. If you look at the commits, issues, or the stage 2 meetings (normally held every thursday in the discord…

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/y1zuzv/is... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskProgramming/comments/y1zwan/is_t... Assuming this is you also. There were commits to Zig less than an hour before you posted this.

You are correct that I also asked other online communities this question.

I wouldn't say I was trying to force a narrative. I was asking out of concern. I was especially unnerved after seeing the development graph on GitHub:

https://imgur.com/M09Nkx9

Also seeing there were features that haven't been implemented for the last 6 years made me even less confident about the future of the project:

https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/68

Even from this post:

https://andrewkelley.me/post/full-time-zig.html

Of all the Zig projects the author said he was going to work on:

- https://github.com/andrewrk/groovebasin/tree/zig

- https://github.com/andrewrk/genesis/tree/zig

- https://github.com/andrewrk/clashos

he never committed and did any of them.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Zig programming language dead?

#8

Post by idiosk » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 5:59 AM UTC

You could’ve found out in 5 seconds if you had looked at https://github.com/ziglang/zig but instead you decided to make this useless post

Re: Ask HN: Is the Zig programming language dead?

#9

Post by idiosk » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 6:02 AM UTC

chris2860 wrote: post #7

sobeston wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/y1zuzv/is... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskProgramming/comments/y1zwan/is_t... Assuming this is you also. There were commits to Zig less than an hour before you posted this.

You are correct that I also asked other online communities this question. I wouldn't say I was trying to force a narrative. I was asking out of concern. I was especially unnerved after seeing the development graph on GitHub: https://imgur.com/M09Nkx9 Also seeing there were features that haven't been implemented for the last 6 years made me even less confident about the future of the project: https://github.com/ziglan…

No post body was provided.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Zig programming language dead?

#10

Post by anonymoushn » Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 7:54 AM UTC

No post body was provided.