Shanghai Quietly Shuts Down Schools, Bars, Gyms as Covid Returns
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#2Has anyone here played Stray?
It’s a wonderful game that came out this year about a city that’s on permanent lockdown. All the humans are gone, but the AI and drones just continue to keep the city “safe” from a virus that has long since vanished.
Also you play as a cat.
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#3Can’t help myself from thinking that this insane zero-covid policy is more about the party conditioning its population for a coming war than fighting a virus.
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#4Can’t help myself from thinking that this insane zero-covid policy is more about the party conditioning its population for a coming war than fighting a virus.
Shanghai is like the Florida of China. Most of the rest of China had fully opened up long ago without any restrictions due to a zero Covid policy that worked. Shanghai always cut corners and kept getting hit with new outbreaks the rest of the country wasn't seeing.
I'm not defending Xi's government, but preventing spread and acknowledging modern germ theory in public policy actually works.
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#5Can’t help myself from thinking that this insane zero-covid policy is more about the party conditioning its population for a coming war than fighting a virus.
It's obviously not a 'zero covid' policy.
Bloomberg here licking the CCP's Boots: "Shanghai Quietly Shuts Down Schools, Gyms, Bars as Covid Returns".
More accurately: "CCP imposes lockdown upon serf population in Shanghai".
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#6Can’t help myself from thinking that this insane zero-covid policy is more about the party conditioning its population for a coming war than fighting a virus.
Shanghai is like the Florida of China. Most of the rest of China had fully opened up long ago without any restrictions due to a zero Covid policy that worked. Shanghai always cut corners and kept getting hit with new outbreaks the rest of the country wasn't seeing. I'm not defending Xi's government, but preventing spread and acknowledging modern germ theory in public policy actually works.
So my understanding of the Chinese population is that the older citizens are heavily resistant to vaccination, and at the same time, China has a rapidly aging population with very weak social safety nets. To me, it’s strange they wouldn’t just “open back up” and let whatever happens happens; that’d be a very authoritarian thing to do. With that, what is the goal of these lockdowns if it’s nuking productivity? If it’s holding down the death rate, that’s reasonable, I just can’t find any evidence to that thesis.
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#7Uggg! When will China get on board with vaccinations? What good is a repressive authoritarian regime if you can't even use it for public health?
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#8A lot of people got really comfortable with things being "finally over" this summer. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it spiked again around Thanksgiving / the holidays as it has the past 2 years and once again catches lot of people off guard.
Perhaps they're just ahead of the curve back there.
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#9A lot of people got really comfortable with things being "finally over" this summer. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it spiked again around Thanksgiving / the holidays as it has the past 2 years and once again catches lot of people off guard. Perhaps they're just ahead of the curve back there.
BA.5 bivariant boosters are available. I took mine a month ago.
These boosters are for the original strain (the one from November 2019), as well as BA.5, the one responsible for the June/July spike here in the USA. So we should, theoretically at least, have broad exposure and protection from whatever hits us in December/January.
Its hard to keep up with mutations, but I'm willing to bet that those vaccinated vs two different strains will have a better immune system compared to those who only have immunity to one strain.
All three major strains for 2022 were Omicron, Omicron BA.4, and Omicron BA.5. So the virus seems to have "settled down" upon the Omicron branch of its evolution, suggesting that the next strain will be another variant of Omicron.
Re: Shanghai Quietly Shuts Down Schools, Bars, Gyms as Covid Returns
#10A lot of people got really comfortable with things being "finally over" this summer. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it spiked again around Thanksgiving / the holidays as it has the past 2 years and once again catches lot of people off guard. Perhaps they're just ahead of the curve back there.
Would it be okay to keep wearing the mask in public for the next couple years - forever?