The title made me imagine it was between Firefox and V8
http://arewefastyet.com/
http://arewefastyet.com/?a=b&machine=8
probably more representative
Firefox 3.6 vs 8.0
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Re: Firefox 3.6 vs 8.0
#12In my opinion, Mozilla should have put more effort into seamless background updates before starting their 6-week release cycles. (Unleash the fanboys...)
I'm a Firefox user and I agree with you. Now, it's not horrible, but it should have been handled better. They might have lost the battle to Chrome in the long run just because of that. (as Chrome has several advantages such as TV ads, billboards ads, included with all major software and often without an easy way to opt-out, ads on all major websites including the most major one, various lock-in attempts with major si…
We've added millions of Firefox users since the move to the faster cadence. Another thing worth noting, we've been shipping updates about every 4 weeks from the beginning of the Firefox product's life. They were noisy and asked you to restart Firefox and prompted with UAC dialogs, and showed a progress meter when you were started. There's nothing new about all of that. We're probably showing that stuff less often now that we're on 6 weeks cycles and not 4 week cycles. We've also turned off the restart prompt for most users and the "What's New" tab for all users.
So, what's different now is that add-ons must move faster to keep up because we're not just shipping security and stability updates frequently, but actual feature updates that can break add-ons. Our big problem is not the noisy updates, but the add-on incompatibility. We're hard at work on that but it's a tough problem.
Re: Firefox 3.6 vs 8.0
#13In my opinion, Mozilla should have put more effort into seamless background updates before starting their 6-week release cycles. (Unleash the fanboys...)
I'm the Director of the Firefox Desktop product (I wasn't at the time of the move to the new release cadence) and I agree with you 100%. We've been busting our butts for the last couple of months to get our updates ironed out and smooth. We've already shipped some of this in Firefox, including not nagging users to restart, killing the "What's New" tab that would interrupt your start-up, and reducing the number of inc…
This is awesome, great work. I hope unnoticeable updates become the norm for all desktop software.
I have to ask, when do you plan on dropping the version number from Firefox releases?
Re: Firefox 3.6 vs 8.0
#14In my opinion, Mozilla should have put more effort into seamless background updates before starting their 6-week release cycles. (Unleash the fanboys...)
I'm the Director of the Firefox Desktop product (I wasn't at the time of the move to the new release cadence) and I agree with you 100%. We've been busting our butts for the last couple of months to get our updates ironed out and smooth. We've already shipped some of this in Firefox, including not nagging users to restart, killing the "What's New" tab that would interrupt your start-up, and reducing the number of inc…
Can you say anything about the "push" to 3.6 users? It was suppose to happen last week. I just checked on http://gs.statcounter.com and usage dropped .4% in the last week, but I'm not sure how accurate it is:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-daily-20111129...
I imagine that there are many 3.6 users who simply aren't into tech news like those of us here, and they simply don't know they should upgrade.
Re: Firefox 3.6 vs 8.0
#15In my opinion, Mozilla should have put more effort into seamless background updates before starting their 6-week release cycles. (Unleash the fanboys...)
I'm the Director of the Firefox Desktop product (I wasn't at the time of the move to the new release cadence) and I agree with you 100%. We've been busting our butts for the last couple of months to get our updates ironed out and smooth. We've already shipped some of this in Firefox, including not nagging users to restart, killing the "What's New" tab that would interrupt your start-up, and reducing the number of inc…
Nice work — that's definitely great to hear. Looking forward to the upcoming updates.
Re: Firefox 3.6 vs 8.0
#16In my opinion, Mozilla should have put more effort into seamless background updates before starting their 6-week release cycles. (Unleash the fanboys...)
I don't believe there are many people that will disagree with you on that matter. I read something today that described the release cycle as "increasingly erratic" and that was on a tech site which should know better. The improvements are there for all to see though, it's just a matter of whether users are willing to give each and every update a go.
Re: Firefox 3.6 vs 8.0
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm the Director of the Firefox Desktop product (I wasn't at the time of the move to the new release cadence) and I agree with you 100%. We've been busting our butts for the last couple of months to get our updates ironed out and smooth. We've already shipped some of this in Firefox, including not nagging users to restart, killing the "What's New" tab that would interrupt your start-up, and reducing the number of inc…
This is awesome, great work. I hope unnoticeable updates become the norm for all desktop software. I have to ask, when do you plan on dropping the version number from Firefox releases?
>I hope unnoticeable updates become the norm for all desktop software.
As long as you can turn that off, sure. I don't like software bypassing my package managers. Firefox is so far the sole exception I'm okay with since I'm using the Nightly builds and don't update as often. But for everything else, that would be a nightmare. I like to be in control of my updates, thank you.
Re: Firefox 3.6 vs 8.0
#18In my opinion, Mozilla should have put more effort into seamless background updates before starting their 6-week release cycles. (Unleash the fanboys...)
I'm the Director of the Firefox Desktop product (I wasn't at the time of the move to the new release cadence) and I agree with you 100%. We've been busting our butts for the last couple of months to get our updates ironed out and smooth. We've already shipped some of this in Firefox, including not nagging users to restart, killing the "What's New" tab that would interrupt your start-up, and reducing the number of inc…
That's great to hear. Update-fatigue drove me away from Firefox. Chrome raised the bar with their seamless update system, I'm glad to hear that FF is up to meeting the challenge!
Re: Firefox 3.6 vs 8.0
#19In my opinion, Mozilla should have put more effort into seamless background updates before starting their 6-week release cycles. (Unleash the fanboys...)
I'm the Director of the Firefox Desktop product (I wasn't at the time of the move to the new release cadence) and I agree with you 100%. We've been busting our butts for the last couple of months to get our updates ironed out and smooth. We've already shipped some of this in Firefox, including not nagging users to restart, killing the "What's New" tab that would interrupt your start-up, and reducing the number of inc…
I'm really hoping you can get the remaining 3.6.x users to force-upgrade. We still have a couple people using 3.6 on our web app (where some pages won't render properly--we've labeled this 'wontfix' in our system since Firefox 7.0+ renders these pages properly.)
Any word on whether there is any way to get them to upgrade? Last I saw, it upgraded them to a newer 3.x version, but then opened a page on your site with a tiny-font-sized line of text that said "This isn't the latest version"--not exactly obvious that 3.6.x is pretty much ancient at this point.
Re: Firefox 3.6 vs 8.0
#20Inaccuracies: SunSpider was not developed by Mozilla (it was Apple), and kraken is not based on SunSpider.