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Ask HN: How are you, a dev/programmer, preparing for the probable recession?

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Re: Ask HN: How are you, a dev/programmer, preparing for the probable recession?

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I have a large cash cushion that can fund the next 5 years of my life. Other than that, I'm prepared to postpone some life goals if shit does hit the fan.

If you're storing your assets as cash, how will you deal with inflation? Hopefully you'll never have to deal with what's happening in (e g.) Turkey over the last few years, but: if you were Turkish and you had five years worth of cash saved up two years ago, and you've never spent any of it, you now have what, 1 year's worth of cash? We assume this'll never happen to the dollar/euro/pound, but what if it does? Even t…

I honestly don't know. Investing in anything seems futile since everything keeps crashing. I'm just living more conservatively and focusing on maximizing my cash pile.

If inflation does start hitting double digits, I wouldn't know what to do.

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The family just started a three month period of what I've been calling 'Austerity' to tighten the belt a little bit and reign in our pretty careless spending lately. Basically it means stop buying various crap and toys off Amazon (by toys I'm including my own ridiculous accumulation of board and video games I'll likely never play, or only play once in a blue moon), cooking more, going out to eat less. It's been going...okay, we could certainly be doing better though.

Financially we do have some emergency cash in the bank, and if we had to we could liquidate some assets (although I'd rather not if at all possible, especially considering how much they've taken a beating in value this year).

I'm not sure what I'll do about my job. I'm relatively well established there, but I haven't really been making myself too visible to the rest of the company outside my immediate team lately (the team only has six people in it at the moment) so that might not be great in case layoffs end up happening, although the project we're on is a pretty strategic one for a large client and letting me improve several skills, and I've also been showing I can manage the company's offshore developers, so I'm hoping that's enough that I don't get caught up in a layoff anytime soon.

I have been tempted to possibly make another job hop before the recession and hopefully get established there before the recession kicks into full gear and I end up being kind of stuck where I'm at for a while, though, but that runs the risk of being included in a layoff much more easily as well.

Honestly if I do get laid off I will probably be relieved and take my time getting my next job, have a mini-sabbatical probably. I've been kind of teetering on the precipice of burnout land for a while now, and have been really wanting more energy to work on some pet projects, get some video games finished and put out in the world, without ever having enough energy leftover in the week to put much of a dent in those projects. I am chipping away at a game library that should help speed up that development if and when that ever happens.

I can't justify taking such a sabbatical otherwise, though, as really my wife needs it even more than I do, as she's struggling to juggle her full time job and working an extra 20-40 hours a week getting a side business going (the austerity is in part to help pad our savings to allow her shift to part-time for her day job at some point next year).

Re: Ask HN: How are you, a dev/programmer, preparing for the probable recession?

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Financially, I moved from the EU to South East Asia, decreasing cost of living by 70-80%. Additionally, just before I moved I was able to get a position with a 50% increase in pay. I'm saving a lot of money here, and locally am investing it into quite a few ventures which would continue to exist if the worlds economy would go south. Mentally & physically, I am taking beatings, right and left, every day, doing martial…

> I think, when the hard times come around, I'll be conditioned enough by always being tired and sore, that its just going to be a walk in the park. What do you think is going to happen? Mass civil unrest?

No real prediction, but economically we are definitely in one of the largest downtrends of the recent past. And I somehow doubt that we are trending towards avoiding even worse or getting a happy ending.

Re: Ask HN: How are you, a dev/programmer, preparing for the probable recession?

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I'm probably an outlier, but I just... haven't? I grew up extraordinarily poor and spent the first few years of my adult life working low-paying jobs while teaching myself to code until I've gotten to where I am now. I feel incredibly and unbelievably blessed to have "made it" relative to where I, my family, and any of my peers would have ever previously thought possible. This, I think, has also changed how I view po…

I am another outlier then, because I think about it in a very similar way.

I have the most necessary stuff that I need daily stocked up for a couple of weeks. That's it.

I have thought a lot about how individuals without a super high net worth could realistically prepare in a sensible way and came to the conclusion, that there doesn't seem to be a good enough answer at this point to justify spending a lot of resources on this.

So I decided to instead enjoy my life as long as it's as good as it is (in a materialistic sense).

Also, another important aspect of how to prepare mentally might be to look at it from a different perspective. What if this is actually a good long-term development disguised as economic hardship and suffering in the short run? I don't particularly like the way tech has turned out in the last couple of decades. Maybe it's an opportunity to rethink a few things...

Re: Ask HN: How are you, a dev/programmer, preparing for the probable recession?

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[US specific] I am of the thought process (and I could be wrong) that we'll have a normal recession or maybe a bit worse and then the US economy will do what it has for the past 100 years and eventually return to normal. I think that the kind of people that post on online forums (like this thread and places like /r/leanfire) can be economic doomers and expect things to fall apart completely at any second.

Decrease spending, increase saving. Lower expenses means your savings goes even further. Once you do that, keep it that way even in times of prosperity. You'll probably be able to weather economic downturns. Even if the US economy were to never prosper as it has, knowing how to live on less is huge to a safe financial future.

Re: Ask HN: How are you, a dev/programmer, preparing for the probable recession?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can economists say, for instance, Argentina is in a recession? Or Ireland? Or Australia? Does the NBER make such determinations for all countries? Ha. Are you being pedantic por are you being gullible? The term recession has been well-defined in economics for decades.

> The term recession has been well-defined in economics for decades. It's been so thoroughly defined, that there are even multiple conflicting definitions.

Which is all to avoid having to admit you're in a recession to avoid the self-fulfilling prophecy aspects of that.

Economists, of course, have a lot of pressure sometimes to avoid speaking the truth, lest they exacerbate the situation. I get that.

Again, I'm not concerned that we're "going into a recession." I'm concerned that we're going into a depression, or decades of stagflation, or war.

Re: Ask HN: How are you, a dev/programmer, preparing for the probable recession?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gold has likely lost its place as a store of value. Its value came as a somewhat rare, status consumption good. But today, gold is much less important as a status consumption good. As India modernizes its banking/financial industry I expect to see gold prices fall with a glut of supply.

> Gold has likely lost its place as a store of value. So what is its replacement as a store of value that is broadly trusted?

Stocks, bonds, real-estate etc.

Total world gold is like 10T$ vs total world assets of 450T$ ish.

What would you rather hold? A claim on future returns from a factory making chips or a shiny metal with minimal industrial use that certain primates horde?

The horders can only supply then economy with a shiny metal. The chip factory can supply it with chips that run cars, trains, financial systems, street lights etc.

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