Switzerland discriminating against men on pension benefits, ECHR finds
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Re: Switzerland discriminating against men on pension benefits, ECHR finds
#2And apparently the ECHR had no problem with Switzerland denying women the right to vote … so WTF?
Re: Switzerland discriminating against men on pension benefits, ECHR finds
#3Switzerland also recently stopped using gender as a factor in determining retirement age
Re: Switzerland discriminating against men on pension benefits, ECHR finds
#4Switzerland also recently stopped using gender as a factor in determining retirement age
This is about whether a pensioner is a widow or widower -where a widow gets her pension for life in the event of the husband's death, but a widower only receives it if they have children under 18 and stop receiving it once their children become adults.
Re: Switzerland discriminating against men on pension benefits, ECHR finds
#5And apparently the ECHR had no problem with Switzerland denying women the right to vote … so WTF?
Women have been able to vote in Switzerland for, what, 30 years now? A bit behind a lot of other countries for sure, but let's not act like that has or should have any bearing on this subject of this post.
Re: Switzerland discriminating against men on pension benefits, ECHR finds
#6Switzerland also recently stopped using gender as a factor in determining retirement age
This is about whether a pensioner is a widow or widower -where a widow gets her pension for life in the event of the husband's death, but a widower only receives it if they have children under 18 and stop receiving it once their children become adults.
Note the word “also” in the original comment.
Re: Switzerland discriminating against men on pension benefits, ECHR finds
#7And apparently the ECHR had no problem with Switzerland denying women the right to vote … so WTF?
Women have been able to vote in Switzerland for, what, 30 years now? A bit behind a lot of other countries for sure, but let's not act like that has or should have any bearing on this subject of this post.
I think the GP's comment is meant to preempt the normal HN comment chum on these topics, i.e. the tendency for HN to go out of its way to claim reactionary sex-based discrimination against men. Given that Switzerland has had universal suffrage for barely longer than I've been alive, it's hard to make that claim about them.
(This instead seems to be good old-fashioned sex-based discrimination, like the draft in the US.)
Re: Switzerland discriminating against men on pension benefits, ECHR finds
#8And apparently the ECHR had no problem with Switzerland denying women the right to vote … so WTF?
Women have been able to vote in Switzerland for, what, 30 years now? A bit behind a lot of other countries for sure, but let's not act like that has or should have any bearing on this subject of this post.
The fact that Swiss women didn’t vote until (relatively) recently is not important.
The fact that the were subject to ECHR jurisdiction is.
The ECHR has immense respect for countries political processes, and allows all sorts of nasty laws (gay marriage bans, etc).
My point is that this sort of micromanagement does not seem consistent with the ECHRs usual hands-off approach.
Re: Switzerland discriminating against men on pension benefits, ECHR finds
#9And apparently the ECHR had no problem with Switzerland denying women the right to vote … so WTF?
Women have been able to vote in Switzerland for, what, 30 years now? A bit behind a lot of other countries for sure, but let's not act like that has or should have any bearing on this subject of this post.
1971 it's burned into my brain
Re: Switzerland discriminating against men on pension benefits, ECHR finds
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Women have been able to vote in Switzerland for, what, 30 years now? A bit behind a lot of other countries for sure, but let's not act like that has or should have any bearing on this subject of this post.
The fact that Swiss women didn’t vote until (relatively) recently is not important. The fact that the were subject to ECHR jurisdiction is. The ECHR has immense respect for countries political processes, and allows all sorts of nasty laws (gay marriage bans, etc). My point is that this sort of micromanagement does not seem consistent with the ECHRs usual hands-off approach.
That’s typical for courts in Europe. For example, I don’t think any EU country legalized same-sex marriage by court order. I’m also not aware of any European country where abortion was legalized by court ruling. The US Supreme Court is unusual in running roughshod over the political process as much as it does.