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My product is outlawed... What next?

#1
Not sure how some out-of-the-box products make it through the dip (as described by Seth Godin) and break barriers. Particularly products like Hustler. I can to some degree understand the case of hustler’s challenge due to the content. But I somehow cannot figure out why my little drinking card game is outlawed.

It has been: - kicked out of google adwords (Account suspended!). Why not just disapprove the ad? - Blocked by Facebook - Instantly unfollowed in Twitter

I have somehow swallowed all that rejections....

I’m very succesfull selling one-on-one to customers which is not scalable. Thanks to Square

I was very optimistic about retail channel. And their reaction surprised me: - Forget conventional stores (I know this will get kicked out) - Rejected by liquor stores frequented by 21 + age - Surprisingly even Head shops and tattoo parlors rejected the game

Reason: Name of the game is too much. And the finger on the pouch is too graphic. They advised me to change the name and re-name the action cards with same rules.

I am not doing that.

My New Approach: Pay me only if you enjoyed playing the game.

I am posting here because this is where I hangout most and hackers think out of the box. Having run out of avenues to get the word out, I have decided to try something out of the box. And hence this post. Apologize if it is out of context.

Get the most awesome card game that mankind has ever played or owned. I will send you a deck for just shipping and handling fees (US : $3. Outside US $6). See the deck, play the game with your friends and if you like what I have created, paypal me $14.99 that I sell for. If you don’t like the game, don’t do anything Just keep the deck because there are only 2,000 on this planet. No questions asked.

if you want to directly paypal send shipping and handling to fthiscardgame At gmail dot com

for questions call me from the site

to learn about the game visit http://fuckthiscardgame.com or my toned down version for google and facebook ads site http://fthiscardgame.com

If you want to know how many ordered the decks I will put a stats page on the site

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#3
Perhaps you're not looking for an explanation as to why people rejected this game, but for the sake of being obvious you can sum it up in one word: immature.

This is soon to be 2012. Your proposition is from a time long since passed probably in the Reagan-Thatcher years, times and attitudes have moved on. It's no longer acceptable to promote this kind of lifestyle, and that's pretty much why "everyone" has rejected this.

You probably will sell out of your 2000 copies, but all I can say is learn why people rejected this and move on. You clearly have some skill, but no humility.

Best of luck with your next project, I hope it's more mature.

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#4
I could see this sold as a gag gift. Like in spencers (not sure if this is still around, but they used to have these kinds of products).

Because of the nature of your game (IE: bad language), it will never be that popular.

It's kind of like the band "Analc*nt" expecting mainstream radio play and then complaining when it's not happening.

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#5

Perhaps you're not looking for an explanation as to why people rejected this game, but for the sake of being obvious you can sum it up in one word: immature. This is soon to be 2012. Your proposition is from a time long since passed probably in the Reagan-Thatcher years, times and attitudes have moved on. It's no longer acceptable to promote this kind of lifestyle, and that's pretty much why "everyone" has rejected t…

Hi Chris, Not sure if you had the opportunity to see the cards...Just wanted to clarify. this is just a drinking card game with a lot of F

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#6
post #2

or you could make the small changes that would allow your game to be marketed and displayed in real outlets.

I was also wondering why he or she was reluctant to do this. Maybe the decks are already printed? If not, I don't think toning down the name and the marketing would take too much from the essence of the product.

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or you could make the small changes that would allow your game to be marketed and displayed in real outlets.

I was also wondering why he or she was reluctant to do this. Maybe the decks are already printed? If not, I don't think toning down the name and the marketing would take too much from the essence of the product.

Yes. The 2,000 decks are already printed. I have sold 300 decks. But that's one-on-one and word-of-mouth. And the reason I have come up with this proposition is because, I know when people play this game they will like it.

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#9
Go find alternative distribution channels.

Have you tried walking into local head shops and asking them if they'd stock it? If so, find out who their main distributors are, and go talk to them.

How about running banner ads on 4chan (http://www.4chan.org/advertise)? Are there other websites with similar audiences and lack of censorship?

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#10
Your product isn't outlawed; no one wants to sell it. Those are two entirely different things.

You could cruise around various college campuses and try to hawk it there. Probably your target audience too. Maybe do an affiliate model where you give college kids a cut if they sell decks?

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