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Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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If nobody is being harmed, why not. It's unpaid management experience. Giving kids responsibilities drives maturity.

In my experience, moderation can absolutely be harmful to the moderator's own mental health, because it involves removing the posts that aren't allowed. Porn, gore, insane political ramblings... a moderator is responsible for cleaning all that up. A 13 year old should probably not be doing it. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57088382

In my experience, it's 13-year-olds that are posting the porn, gore and insane ramblings in the first place.

It's also a volunteer gig. If it makes you uncomfortable, stop doing it.

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When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

> In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances. The discourse in many subreddits is invisibly dictated by the moderators. It's not obvious when you browse posts because everything is organically coming from random people. However, moderators can entirely shape the conversation by only allowing posts that say what they want. In other words: The…

>The discourse in many subreddits is invisibly dictated by the moderators.

If you haven't signed up for alerts on reveddit, odds are good you have no idea how many of your comments and posts have been silently removed: " rel="nofollow">https://www.reveddit.com/y/

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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> On the other hand, nobody forces the feed on you if you choose your own community. That's only true if you stay small. If the subreddit gains traction, it will be taken from you if you don't moderate in a way that suits the whims of the power mod / admin cabal. They may take it from you under a flimsy pretext even if you're doing a good job, simply because they want to add your subreddit to their dominion.

Yes, no denying that but at least you have the ability to reach the point. Facebook on the other hand finishes before something can even start because the algorithm checks every single word that you post, unlike Reddit.

This seems like arguing whether chicken shit or pig shit smells worse.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Yes, but your approach is wildly unhelpful. Downvote it and move on.

Or don't downvote it and disregard. It's very common on HN for people to openly discuss salaries and ask about salaries.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

#126

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

The sheer amount of propaganda on Reddit is insane. You could take a random selection of titles off /r/popular and repost it to the /r/circlejerk of 5 years ago and it would've been a top post. I think that's part of the reason for its declining popularity: it's hard to make more absurd posts than what actually becomes popular nowadays.

Every community develops its own biases, HN included, but Reddit is in late-stage groupthink. It wouldn't be a bad thing if what got traction wasn't doom and gloom. So many posts boil down to "the world is a mess"/"I am a mess"/"other political side is so stupid how can other people think different?"/"hate this person for expressing X opinion or doing Y (at least for like 3 days)".

It's not just an online thing only, I've seen many people who have internalized some of these beliefs since they see them expressed so much online. Being ruled by what the internet thinks is acceptable is a horrible way to live your life, but if you're an awkward teen you might very well end up like that.

Maybe I'm just nostalgic but the early internet had this care free spirit where every interaction, good or bad, seemed somewhat fun at least since it was crazy you were able to at all, and there were no stakes. People would flame you for your political opinions but you'd just shout at each other until a moderator told you to shut up, not have an entire community go against you since you don't agree with them. It was fun!. This "ganging-up" OTOH induces the brain to start modifying its beliefs to fit the group. A very normal process, but harmful. And younger people, the audience of Reddit, are exactly the most vulnerable to this online peer pressure.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

This is the problem.

I got banned from one of the main subreddits for asking an innocent question on something I knew nothing about, something kicked off, I heard about it first on the reddit, couldn't find much info about it as most content around it had already been removed online, questioned if it was really that bad as I could only find one bit of information and was instantly banned for supporting sexual abuse.

I stupidly, avoided the ban by going to a different account as i felt I hadn't done anything wrong, after trying to speak to the mods about it but then Reddit managed to discover this and then my whole account was banned that i'd used for years on reddit.

Insane. Now I just make new accounts every few months and access via VPN's, but I don't get involved in most discussions, only use it for when i want to ask someone a question.

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Individual Discord communities are, and always have been, called "servers", despite the fact that they are entirely logical/digital entities and have no particular correspondence with actual physical servers (the way IRC servers do).

Is this a distinction without a difference? Meaning, it seems eminently reasonable if I was 16, started a Disney Discord, got a verified badge for it, then Disney pointed out the delicacies of Discord handing the Official Disney Discord to a minor, it seems to be a reasonable compromise to make the official Disney Discord officially Disney's, and allow the 16 year old to still have the secret chats, etc.

A more reasonable compromise might be to give disney contol over the discord.gg/disney namespace but leave the existing server and it's community unmodified under the control of the people who actually built it.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/xzdkio/stab... apparently, there is a separate drama about hacking at SD and accusations of ownership of code.

Was there a dedicated HN submission for this topic? This is extremely fascinating to me. In what Andrej Karpathy calls "software 2.0"[1], leaking your model is equivalent to leaking the main IP of your company. Unlike source code where it loses value quickly out of context (e.g. twitch leaked their code yet that didn't spawn a bunch of twitch clones), models can be fine-tuned and transfer-learning-ed for many other p…

I did actually submit a link to a GitHub issue about this, but it seems to have been blocked by HN. I can see the post title when I'm logged in but as a guest it doesn't show anything at all. The post wasn't even flagged as dead. It doesn't show up in my submitted links list when logged out either.

I don't know if it tripped an internal filter on HN or something. Here is the link to the post in case you're curious.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33146603

In case it matters I used the GitHub issue title as the name of the post - "Stable-diffusion-webui is using stolen code".

Here is the actual link I posted.

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/issu...

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

#130

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Yes, no denying that but at least you have the ability to reach the point. Facebook on the other hand finishes before something can even start because the algorithm checks every single word that you post, unlike Reddit.

This seems like arguing whether chicken shit or pig shit smells worse.

That was a really bad comparison.

Moderators on Reddit can be biased in different areas, they might let a comment pass or have a nervous breakdown over something they don't like. It's not clear and never will be but you still have the freedom.

Facebook algorithm does not miss. It does not overlook things or understand context. All it knows is someone said something they're not supposed to and that is the difference.

I'll take Reddit over Facebook anytime of the day because at least on Reddit, I can say controversial things (if any) on my own feed without the fear of the algorithm deleting it and banning me for a month where I have no voice, only a threat to be confirming to Facebook ideals that I have no idea what they are.

So yeah, both are censuring but Reddit allows more freedom.

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