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Re: India Asks Google, Facebook to Screen User Content

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Post by bad_user »

jjcm wrote: post #29

This seems to be a fairly reoccurring theme - countries requesting internet sites to mass censor user content. Rarely though do they understand the scale of what that means. In the article, it stated that they wanted each item to be screened by a human. In the same way that I'll quote a client a much larger price if they want IE6 support, I often don't see why these companies don't just quote the country a price for…

The request itself may be clueless, however you can easily mass censor content that contains certain keywords.

It can get pretty effective too, as is the case with spam filtering. You could even detect the tone of the article - if it's a positive or a negative one. Plus you can hellban the users too and they won't notice the censorship until much later.

So I don't get what a discussion of costs will bring, as there's always a cheaper way. Freedom of speech is the issue here, not cost.

Re: India Asks Google, Facebook to Screen User Content

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Post by bishnu »

suprgeek wrote: post #5

Not an unusual request considering the utter cluelessness and Sycophantic bootlicking of the people involved. Consider that the perceived slight is to the defacto head of India - Sonia Gandhi (a person with terrifying power but Zero accountability, completely outside the Govt.) this is being held up as the reason to institute an Orwellian nightmare of Censorship. A reasonable response is FU in nice terms. [EDIT - min…

Sonia Gandhi is an MP, she is not "completely outside the government". A few people have said this now, where is this talk coming from?

Re: India Asks Google, Facebook to Screen User Content

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Post by bad_user »

prayag wrote: post #26

Ok, I will play the devil's advocate here because someone has to. This has been going on since the pre-internet era. India unlike the US and like the UK doesn't have unlimited free speech and have fairly strong defamation and libel laws. This was a rich man's problem because how would you defame someone unless you have access to printing press or can go on radio and television. The internet changed all that. The gove…

In case you are trying to give justifications for these requests because this has been going on since the pre-internet era, then don't - freedom of speech should be a fundamental right of all people.

Re: India Asks Google, Facebook to Screen User Content

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Post by sushantsharma »

bishnu wrote: post #32
suprgeek wrote: post #5

Not an unusual request considering the utter cluelessness and Sycophantic bootlicking of the people involved. Consider that the perceived slight is to the defacto head of India - Sonia Gandhi (a person with terrifying power but Zero accountability, completely outside the Govt.) this is being held up as the reason to institute an Orwellian nightmare of Censorship. A reasonable response is FU in nice terms. [EDIT - min…

Sonia Gandhi is an MP, she is not "completely outside the government". A few people have said this now, where is this talk coming from?

Right, she is an MP that has more power than the PM.

Re: India Asks Google, Facebook to Screen User Content

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Post by anonInd »

bishnu wrote: post #32
suprgeek wrote: post #5

Not an unusual request considering the utter cluelessness and Sycophantic bootlicking of the people involved. Consider that the perceived slight is to the defacto head of India - Sonia Gandhi (a person with terrifying power but Zero accountability, completely outside the Govt.) this is being held up as the reason to institute an Orwellian nightmare of Censorship. A reasonable response is FU in nice terms. [EDIT - min…

Sonia Gandhi is an MP, she is not "completely outside the government". A few people have said this now, where is this talk coming from?

The misinformation comes from the RSS propaganda machine. Irony, they are way too active on FB.

edit: missed a word

Re: India Asks Google, Facebook to Screen User Content

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Post by brettnak »

tomjen3 wrote: post #13
tejaswiy wrote: post #2

Just. Wow. Mind boggling amounts of stupidity. "In the second meeting with the same executives in late November, Mr. Sibal told them that he expected them to use human beings to screen content, not technology, the executive said. The three executives said Mr. Sibal has told these companies that he expects them to set up a proactive prescreening system, with staffers looking for objectionable content and deleting it b…

It is funny how much people who don't contribute to the world think they get to tell other people what to do.

I agree. As much as I disagree with Ayn Rand on some things, she certainly disliked uselessness as much as I do. I can't help but wonder if certain aspects of her future's government in Atlas Shrugged is the natural end stage of a government.

Re: India Asks Google, Facebook to Screen User Content

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Post by prayag »

bad_user wrote: post #33
prayag wrote: post #26

Ok, I will play the devil's advocate here because someone has to. This has been going on since the pre-internet era. India unlike the US and like the UK doesn't have unlimited free speech and have fairly strong defamation and libel laws. This was a rich man's problem because how would you defame someone unless you have access to printing press or can go on radio and television. The internet changed all that. The gove…

In case you are trying to give justifications for these requests because this has been going on since the pre-internet era , then don't - freedom of speech should be a fundamental right of all people.

I am justifying anything. I am telling it how it. People in the US think of freedom of speech as a fundamental right which it should be. This is not the case with most other countries. It's the same as people in other countries thinking that universal healthcare should be a fundamental right, many people in the US don't agree.

I personally am in favor of both being fundamental rights.

Re: India Asks Google, Facebook to Screen User Content

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Post by prayag »

lisperforlife wrote: post #28

Sibal is an idiot. Nobody in India takes him seriously. When he is not busy kissing sonia and rahul's ass, he talks from his own.

I disagree. I think Sibal is one of the smarter and honest guy in the government. I do think people take him seriously. He is the person behind the $35 tablet, he is moving the country from an absolute points based system of grading to relative grade based system and is opening up more IITs. He has risen among the ranks in the government to Human Resources and Education Minister. You might not agree with what he does but I don't think you can take him trivially.

Re: India Asks Google, Facebook to Screen User Content

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Post by dman »

anonInd wrote: post #35
bishnu wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sonia Gandhi is an MP, she is not "completely outside the government". A few people have said this now, where is this talk coming from?

The misinformation comes from the RSS propaganda machine. Irony, they are way too active on FB. edit: missed a word

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