Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3 • Hacker News Board

Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 4:22 PM UTC

super256 wrote: post #60

black_puppydog wrote: post #45

Funny to see a bunch of (quickly flagged) comments that show a clear misunderstanding of what the German hacker scene is and wants. Besides not being a monolith and this being amenable to labeling as such, it's still in many parts different from many other hacker scenes. The CCC has always had the ambition (and backing credentials/skills) to be a political movement as much as a technological one. In fact that's the o…

I left the CCC in 2020 after C3 crew decided that the cock.li mail-service is a fascist and started, escalated, and carried out an attack on its administrator Vincent Canfield [1]. Sorry, but throwing someone on the floor in front of the congress building for registering clearly sarcastic domains such as "hitler.rocks" and "nuke.africa" is just not what I understand under anti-facism. It's merely a power move for con…

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Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Post by simon_o » Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 5:30 PM UTC

super256 wrote: post #136

2pEXgD0fZ5cF wrote: post #96

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> clearly sarcastic domains such as "hitler.rocks" and "nuke.africa" When I visit the page I'm greeted by a banner with fake quotes, here is a selection: > I'm 200% n*ger > Come fuck with a n*ger. I'm a business man There is nothing that indicates sarcasm or satire there when it comes to all those choices, given that the site advertises itself towards 4chan users. At best it's edgy and infantile, at worst it's just t…

For whatever reason, you are leaving out the fact that the testimonial section is user-generated content. Everyone who donates at least $5 can put a testimonial up there. I think it's pretty prominent, shown right below the donation button under bitcoin/monero logo on the donation page. Anyway, it could also be that I'm emotionally dumbed down in this respect after spending years on the internet, but I don't feel off…

Do you have a trusted person that you can hit up for some advice on how human interaction in a society works? Please do it.

Because the more I read from you, the more I believe that you are either severely mentally ill or just an enormous asshole. I don't care what it is, but fix yourself.

And to answer the question: That guy should be grateful that he left with all his teeth, cause secu doesn't mess around. That's how wrong you are, and none of your entitled whining will change that.

With every sentence you write you manage to make yourself look more like an oceanic garbage patch of a human being.

I feel sorry for you that you seem to be absolutely unable to reflect your own behavior.

Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Post by larodi » Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 6:00 AM UTC

jon-wood wrote: post #38

larodi wrote: post #7

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Volunteering is a very tricky and shady business. If it was not - we’d all be volunteering and getting paid without tax. There’s a reason for some limits in volunteering laws whenever they exist in a country. I bet the same people running this whole thing are also very well paid techies. Not sure about the volunteers though. And third, not last, the fact something is run by volunteers does not change it’s nature - it…

I can see how from the outside you’d think that way. Hacker events are very different to big corporate conferences, and don’t intuitively make sense in a world where almost everything that happens is being done so someone can make a buck. Everyone involved is a volunteer, or at the very most making significantly less money than they could running events of a similar scale in the real world, and they’re all doing it b…

I know very well what a hacker event is and how it unfolds. Been on stage on few, helped as volunteer on some. IMHO - Generally this all manifest in a very similar manner to some communist movement. I’m not saying that it is bad to contribute to some idea, not even saying communism is bad. I’m just saying that there’s certain amount of hypocrisy in this scenario, you can downvote me as much as u want, doesn’t change the fact.

It is one thing to throw a party for 20friends and another to have FOSDEM sized gig. Such events are not presented in open ground in some forest by people shouting loud (been to such also, although for music). So they have cost - for venue, internet, electricity, screens, typically some food, drinks etc. As a presenter I have a cost for flight, accommodation, food, etc.

Someone pays the bill. Not for profit still has bills to pay. If you don’t pay deeds with cash, there’s some other value exchanged.

So why not support these people who contribute? What’s wrong with that, sorry I’m not getting it. Besides students very often participate by moving boxes between rooms, because for jobs that require responsible actions one needs an expert. Being a student I’d rather want to participate in something that actually teaches me something, but at the end the best I can hope for is to get to know some famous folks. But I can also do it as a visitor, right?