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Re: Learn Exponentially

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Thanks, so essentially you set a reminder for you ti sit, and remember what you learned a few days prior?

Basically yes. The exact time isn't so important, as long as the rough interval increases with each success and decreases with each failure.

Brill, thanks for the explanation.

Re: Learn Exponentially

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Another method I have used in the past is to rewatch content I used to learn a subject at 3-4x speed. A lot of high quality content that spans multiple days can be viewed in only a few hours this way. The key I’ve learned with this is to do this across variations of the content you wish to learn and re-learn. Combine this with audio books at similar speeds and you can really get through content very quickly. When usi…

What speed do you use the first time around?

Depends on the content I'm looking at and if there is a lot of terminology that I'm unfamiliar with. If I find that I am pausing quite often to take notes then I just slow it down to 1.5x.

Re: Learn Exponentially

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Haha, where would you rank this one in terms of quality?

To be perfectly honest, I flagged it because of the knowledge gained graph. It's a wild extrapolation. For context, I was a big fan of SRS and even contributed to Anki back in the day! I was really into foreign language learning, had majored in one language and was learning another language in a separate language family. I built, ran and put my heart into brick and mortar language immersion school for years. Over tim…

Is Extensive Reading just that? Reading a lot in general? Or is it reading a lot on the specific subject that you want to learn, taking all possible branches?

Re: Learn Exponentially

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Anki public decks are usually too low quality to be useful unfortunately

They're a lot better than Save All's builtin decks, such as only including 1,000 of the most frequent words of a language, and only nouns, and not even including the word's gender. Rarely with these SRS services do you see actual high-quality decks that outdo public Anki decks, which is a shame because it would be a great way to add value.

Instead of there being competing spaced repetition programs and services, I'd much rather companies just go down the route of making well-curated, frequently updating Anki decks and putting them behind a paywall instead.

Refold, a company focused on language learning, does exactly this [0], and having tried their JP1K deck for Japanese for a while, I can say without any hesitation that it was shocking just how high quality everything was.

It had the full works: Japanese audio, kanji, furigana, multiple definitions, a custom background, etc. And I wouldn't be surprised if there were even more changes since the last time I tried it.

I recall there being something similar to this for medical programs, but overall I'd say that this approach sadly isn't something that a lot of people are focusing on.

[0] https://refold.la/decks

Re: Learn Exponentially

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For something allegedly this important, the author could have invested more time into elaborating, providing more examples, etc. I'm still skeptical, this is just another rando Medium rant as far as I'm concerned.

Re: Learn Exponentially

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To be perfectly honest, I flagged it because of the knowledge gained graph. It's a wild extrapolation. For context, I was a big fan of SRS and even contributed to Anki back in the day! I was really into foreign language learning, had majored in one language and was learning another language in a separate language family. I built, ran and put my heart into brick and mortar language immersion school for years. Over tim…

Is Extensive Reading just that? Reading a lot in general? Or is it reading a lot on the specific subject that you want to learn, taking all possible branches?

It's about both the volume and the type of reading. See the 2nd page of this paper, under "What is extensive reading?": https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334535447_Extensive...

Re: Learn Exponentially

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Spaced repetition turns reading into a physical activity with feedback. If you had an activity that required the knowledge you were hoping to acquire, you would learn at the same rate or faster by practice. Most lessons are encoded really poorly. I think spaced repetition is great, but practice at something is better. A hacker is just someone who has practiced learning independently and has become exceptionally good…

This is a good way to think about the subject. Still, education at a higher level like uni is often good to get a sound understanding of a subject (more so than optimizing for grades). Also learning a new (natural) language sometimes requires hammering words or gramatic rules into memory, and having a good teacher can be much faster than learning on your own by reading texts.

In the context of software development, sound understanding as you'd expect from a uni arguably includes CS concepts like algorithms and data structures. I find that there is a bit of a memorization aspect to simply knowing a lot of those and their properties, advantages, ... It seems like a pretty good application area for SRS to me, really wishing I'd heard about it sooner.

Re: Learn Exponentially

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Title is misleading. This isn't learning exponentially. Anybody who has used a spaced repetition app (like Anki) knows that you generally learn around the same number of words every day. You're not going to be learning 10 words in a day and then one week later, learn 1000 words in a day.

This article talks about how the reps needed to learn one piece of information, reduces exponentially over time. You might need 1 rep per day at the beginning, but only 1 rep per 100 days after a month. This basically means that if you have a lifespan of 100 years, spaced repetition means you only need around 10-20 reps to remember each piece of knowledge for the rest of your life.

But learning N items will still take 10*N reps. It scales linearly. A far cry from exponential

Re: Learn Exponentially

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To be perfectly honest, I flagged it because of the knowledge gained graph. It's a wild extrapolation. For context, I was a big fan of SRS and even contributed to Anki back in the day! I was really into foreign language learning, had majored in one language and was learning another language in a separate language family. I built, ran and put my heart into brick and mortar language immersion school for years. Over tim…

Extensive reading sounds compelling. Do you have recommendations for services that offer such content? In my own language learning, I have found a few websites here and there (eg Hola Qué Pasa [1]), but nothing that has a large database with varying levels of competence. [1] https://holaquepasa.com/

I'd recommend avoiding "services" and going for books, starting with graded readers. There's a wealth of options for Spanish learners.

If you absolutely hate books and want an online resource, then I'd suggest https://www.lingq.com. It has a lot of free content and lets you import your own. Their tech/design chops are meh, but it's run by true language learning enthusiasts and the founder dogfooded it for at least half a dozen languages.

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