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Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#41

We’re getting there, I’ve been in your spot and have some tips after fighting for a better remote culture for months: 1. In-person events must happen. Best case scenario, once per quarter. Even once per year is phenomenal though. This will put out a lot of remote culture failure fires. 2. Team-only social hour with games, works much better after an in person event. 3. My newest experiment win: opening up a casual zoo…

> In-person events must happen. Best case scenario, once per quarter. Even once per year is phenomenal though. This sounds pretty terrible environmentally, as remote-first implies geographically distributed, which implies air travel with its associated externalities.

It'd be interesting to see how a daily commute compares to a once a quarter flight. I used to drive 40 miles a day in my commute. Roughly 10k miles/yr. A flight to a centrally located place in the US will be about 3k round trip if everyone lives on the coasts (worst case scenario). Are 3k air miles better or worse than 10k car miles?

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#42
What we’ve been doing that has worked well for the last 2.5 years:

1. We do a weekly team meeting that has an open Q&A element to it. Whenever someone new joins the team, we ask them to do a self-intro sharing hobbies and interests and also a teardown or repair of an electronics product (really specific to us).

2. For regions where we have clusters of people, we bring them together occasionally for work and social activities.

3. We do regular workshops where we bring people together in person, with most of the time not covered by a set meeting agenda. This is massively useful for empathy-building and makes us more effective when remote.

4. We’ve reached a scale where we’re now also introducing random match 1:1s bi-weekly for people to connect with others who they normally wouldn’t (folks can opt out if they want to, but nobody has).

You might note that none of these activities (except the teardown) are deliberate culture-builders, but are instead about connection and empathy building. With connections and empathy, you have the scaffolding to make culture stick.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#43
It's mostly "obvious" and you seem to already understand that, but it does take support from top to bottom of the organization. ex: ensure communication channels exist (mailing lists, slack/irc/etc); enable, encourage, and allow "water cooler" sort of discussions to occur on same; allow folks who don't wish to participate in those to opt out in some manner; periodic in-person meetings with work and "fun" team-building activities; zoom/video really should not be overused but good luck getting folks to understand that. MySQL (the company) did this very well; some of its offshoots have done it well occasionally.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#44
post #22

Work/company culture is overrated in my opinion. That's why I don't do anything special apart from regular catchups and being nice along with trying to get better paycheck and titles for people reporting to me. For everything else I let grownups (employees) decide if they want to mingle with others on and off work, either in person or over Zoom.

Exactly. Pay me well and let me choose who to be friends with and how to spend that money. I used to work at a company that told you how much all their culture spend was per employee it was eye watering they could have doubled everyone's salary and had a much happier workforce.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#45

If you want to talk about non work things, find people who aren't your co-workers. It's OK to only do work things at work, and to separate personal and professional life.

I’ll agree with this except that if this is your attitude you shouldn’t expect to enjoy working at a company that does value co-workers talking about non-work things. Some companies don’t think it’s OK to only do work things at work and it sounds like the OP prefers to work at a company like that.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#46
Culture, culture, culture. It's universally cited as essential to an org's success, but... what exactly is the "culture" of a workplace?

I think an org has good culture if it has a good mission, the mission is communicated clearly and consistently throughout the org, people plan together thoughtfully for how best to execute the mission, and they execute their plans reliably and with respect for the time and effort of colleagues (e.g. reasonable questions and requests are answered in a courteous and timely fashion).

If all of that happens, I would rate the org culture as great, and people will naturally enjoy the company of their colleagues out of mutually earned respect.

None of this seems to have anything to do with getting together in person. You can set and communicate mission without being physically together, and you can plan thoughtfully without being physically together. And directed, thoughtful, and reliable people are great to work with whether it's in person or through a screen, and the opposite kind of person is also a pain regardless of the medium.

There are specific situations when being in-person can work better. I'm sure with very creative work, like developing a Disney movie, you sometimes want to get together to feed off each other's energy. But I don't think it's really that important in general. The important thing is everyone doing their jobs, and the people doing their jobs getting proportional recognition.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#49
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure but at the same time, building a baseline relationships with people is important. It builds capital that can be used to diffuse misunderstandings and tense situations. I'm not looking to replace my family with my co-workers but instead enabling them to get to know each other and connect a bit more.

I second this. Building relationships with your co-workers that includes non-work contexts gives you more background to understand their motivations, and they yours. As as side benefit it can pay off as a great friendship that extends past the time when professionally speaking you go your separate ways. Five of my favorite friends are ex-coworkers.

Part of building relationships from a management perspective means understanding how people operate, and then helping to create an environment that’s conducive to them. Your responses in this thread read like you expect everyone you work with to instead meet you on your level. That’s great when everyone is like minded, but as teams scale up it doesn’t work that way.

I also have many ex-coworkers who are great friends. I have others who are doing great and I only see random updates on LinkedIn every few years as they move around. Both are fine, both sets of people were awesome hires (on a remote team)

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#50

We’re getting there, I’ve been in your spot and have some tips after fighting for a better remote culture for months: 1. In-person events must happen. Best case scenario, once per quarter. Even once per year is phenomenal though. This will put out a lot of remote culture failure fires. 2. Team-only social hour with games, works much better after an in person event. 3. My newest experiment win: opening up a casual zoo…

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