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Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#21
Encouraging frequent Zoom meetings is a good way to get people together. Like in situations where you’d normally go to a persons desk and discuss something, you’d now hop on a zoom call. Having seniors initiate can help juniors get used to hopping on a call.

My company also has group testing every week where everyone hops on a call and chats while playing with the new build.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#22
Work/company culture is overrated in my opinion. That's why I don't do anything special apart from regular catchups and being nice along with trying to get better paycheck and titles for people reporting to me.

For everything else I let grownups (employees) decide if they want to mingle with others on and off work, either in person or over Zoom.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

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GitLab is great at remote first culture. Check out their open source company handbook. Remote first requires proactive process to keep employees engaged and communicating effectively. If you feel isolated and trapped in a silo, good process can pull you out. Also, look for companies where remote strategy emanates from the senior leadership. A CEO that flows down remote strategy will be more effective.

GitLab pays people differently for the same roles, based on where they're located so, by definition, they aren't great at remote first culture.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

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post #22

Work/company culture is overrated in my opinion. That's why I don't do anything special apart from regular catchups and being nice along with trying to get better paycheck and titles for people reporting to me. For everything else I let grownups (employees) decide if they want to mingle with others on and off work, either in person or over Zoom.

I dunno, I've worked at businesses that didn't care about culture and the working conditions were pretty mediocre. I've worked at businesses that intentionally tried to make the business a "good place to work" and people were happier. Sure people are less likely to quit, but isn't necessarily a bad thing.

People like to think of our work selves as these alter egos we take off when we go home from work. Life is more nuanced than that. If you've got a stressful job that stress is going to bleed into your personal life.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#25
Mid pandemic one of my clients decided to bring in a manager to handle this. He tried everything that's been suggested here and more and the result was that 3 months later half their team left the company. My point is, some people don't want cultural cohesion and don't want to be "friends" with their coworkers and if you push it too hard on them they'll just leave. So learn to take no for an answer. Hope this helps.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#26

We’re getting there, I’ve been in your spot and have some tips after fighting for a better remote culture for months: 1. In-person events must happen. Best case scenario, once per quarter. Even once per year is phenomenal though. This will put out a lot of remote culture failure fires. 2. Team-only social hour with games, works much better after an in person event. 3. My newest experiment win: opening up a casual zoo…

> In-person events must happen. Best case scenario, once per quarter. Even once per year is phenomenal though.

This sounds pretty terrible environmentally, as remote-first implies geographically distributed, which implies air travel with its associated externalities.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#28

One of the tradeoffs with remote work is flexibility for closer connections. You can work fight this somewhat, but it's the wrong work model for cultural cohesion.

Ok, I can see how that could be the case. What is a better model for cohesion in a remote first workspace?

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#29

If you want to talk about non work things, find people who aren't your co-workers. It's OK to only do work things at work, and to separate personal and professional life.

I'm gonna second this. "Company Culture" is mostly an attempt to get people more invested in the workplace than they should be, trying to replace their workers' social lives and family lives with work instead by making work seem more appealing. Remote first companies are great precisely because it cuts away all of this bullshit. Work stays work, and "company culture" stays out of your personal time and personal life.

Yes company culture can be gamed and abused, but this isn't always the case. Having a workplace that recognizes important life events (like the birth of a child) is meaningful to the individuals on a human level. We can't write that all off as corporate big brother trying to control us.

Ultimately we are all people working with other people, and a business can do quite a bit to help us recognize each other as humans.

Re: Ask HN: How do remote first businesses maintain cultural cohesion?

#30

I've got better friends and more in common with people on a remote team than I ever had in an office day in day out. Depends on the people. Culcural cohesion feels like some bs term to keep managers relevant.

Is there anything that the remote team did that helped form those friendships?
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