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Best Dumb TVs

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#11
Interesting concept! My experience is that it doesn't matter how smart a TV is when you buy it, it eventually become dumber than most, mostly because hardware upgrades in TVs is not a concept and lack of software upgrade.

For this reason you will most likely buy tiny Android TV boxes, which will be cheap and replaceble.

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#12

I haven’t bought a TV in about 7 years. What’s the state of the union with TV quality these days? If I compare TVs with the same display technology, what do I get from a brand name? Is the screen somehow better? Or is it just the enclosure that’s more attractive? Or is it just better warranty/durability?

> If I compare TVs with the same display technology, what do I get from a brand name?

For my last major TV purchase, rtings.com was the most useful resource I could find for understanding the differences between options at the size I was looking for. They also have good roundups of the best overall TV brands¹, as well as regular roundups of the best options in several categories (size, primary use, etc.).

¹ https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/brands

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post #5

What I really want is a dumb panel with no TV receiver; this makes it a monitor, and not subject to Ireland’s TV licensing law. There are commercial panels, but the power draw on the ones I’ve seen is higher than a regular 40 inch TV. Plus, finding one that’s available in Ireland.. well, it’s a smallish island with a population of 5 million, and it’s not a common purchase. I probably need to re-evaluate the pricing o…

> Ireland’s TV licensing law Can you expand on this? What is this law? What's the impact on a TV vs. a monitor?

The law basically says a panel with the capacity to receive a TV signal via integrated receiver is a TV. That means you owe a fee for the privilege of owning such a device. Simply removing the receiver circuit is not valid, since it can be repaired.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer/phone_interne... Has a summary.

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post #5

What I really want is a dumb panel with no TV receiver; this makes it a monitor, and not subject to Ireland’s TV licensing law. There are commercial panels, but the power draw on the ones I’ve seen is higher than a regular 40 inch TV. Plus, finding one that’s available in Ireland.. well, it’s a smallish island with a population of 5 million, and it’s not a common purchase. I probably need to re-evaluate the pricing o…

> Ireland’s TV licensing law Can you expand on this? What is this law? What's the impact on a TV vs. a monitor?

I don't live in Ireland, but from what I've read: you need to pay annually for a license if you have anything capable of receiving TV, even if you don't use it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ireland’s TV licensing law Can you expand on this? What is this law? What's the impact on a TV vs. a monitor?

The law basically says a panel with the capacity to receive a TV signal via integrated receiver is a TV. That means you owe a fee for the privilege of owning such a device. Simply removing the receiver circuit is not valid, since it can be repaired. https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer/phone_interne... Has a summary.

I suppose technically a panel with HDMI input counts anyway these days, because external receivers put out HDMI, but I don’t know if the prosecution of the law has caught up to that.

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post #5

What I really want is a dumb panel with no TV receiver; this makes it a monitor, and not subject to Ireland’s TV licensing law. There are commercial panels, but the power draw on the ones I’ve seen is higher than a regular 40 inch TV. Plus, finding one that’s available in Ireland.. well, it’s a smallish island with a population of 5 million, and it’s not a common purchase. I probably need to re-evaluate the pricing o…

I use a 42.5" LG 43UD79 4k monitor as a computer screen. It's fine for work/text and non-AAA gaming. For photorealism/movies the blacks or vividness of colours is not as dramatic as TVs so I don't use it much for that.

Why is a non-4k one preferred? I notice it's discontinued now and there are newer LG 43" monitors (with maybe better blacks/saturation).

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post #3

Best dumb Large TV are the SmartTV that have its WiFi antenna disconnected and not plugged into the Internet. Sceptre Model U65 is a 4K UHD, 65” 3840x2860 that supports Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL) upscaling, HDMI 2.0, HDCP v2.2. Best part? No Ethernet plug nor WiFi. It’s nearly $649 USD (or still almost $10/screen-inch).

Is there a difference between a dumb tv and a smart tv that you leave on hdmi1 input ?

Smart TV has at least a WebKit framework in which to do all kinds of apps (Netflix, Hulu), ads, and probing of your viewing habits.

Smart TV have a absolute requirement of having an Ethernet port/WiFi in which to “optionally” do Internet with.

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post #5

What I really want is a dumb panel with no TV receiver; this makes it a monitor, and not subject to Ireland’s TV licensing law. There are commercial panels, but the power draw on the ones I’ve seen is higher than a regular 40 inch TV. Plus, finding one that’s available in Ireland.. well, it’s a smallish island with a population of 5 million, and it’s not a common purchase. I probably need to re-evaluate the pricing o…

Same law here in Austria. Now we got companies that sell TVs without antennas and receiver. These also dumb TVs.

https://nogis.at/

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I haven’t bought a TV in about 7 years. What’s the state of the union with TV quality these days? If I compare TVs with the same display technology, what do I get from a brand name? Is the screen somehow better? Or is it just the enclosure that’s more attractive? Or is it just better warranty/durability?

> If I compare TVs with the same display technology, what do I get from a brand name? For my last major TV purchase, rtings.com was the most useful resource I could find for understanding the differences between options at the size I was looking for. They also have good roundups of the best overall TV brands¹, as well as regular roundups of the best options in several categories (size, primary use, etc.). ¹ https://w…

Rtings is also great for monitors. There's so much difference in quality and performance between visually similar display models and these are usually impossible to determine from official specs. I couldn't imagine having to buy a display without these detailed tests.

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post #3

Best dumb Large TV are the SmartTV that have its WiFi antenna disconnected and not plugged into the Internet. Sceptre Model U65 is a 4K UHD, 65” 3840x2860 that supports Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL) upscaling, HDMI 2.0, HDCP v2.2. Best part? No Ethernet plug nor WiFi. It’s nearly $649 USD (or still almost $10/screen-inch).

> It’s nearly $649 USD (or still almost $10/screen-inch).

That's crazy expensive for a TV of such quality.

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