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Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Post by farhaven »

sprash wrote: post #28
farhaven wrote: post #20

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You mean the CCC that was founded in the rooms of leftist newspaper TAZ at a table that was stolen from the anarcho-left commune "Kommune 1"? If you don't understand that the CCC is and has always been anti-fascist, you're way off the path, friend. Edit: forgot to mention: any notion that Antifa is a state-organized thing is misguided at best and wrong and in bad faith at worst. It's just not true.

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Who is this "Antifa" that you talk about? Are they in the room with us right now?

Calling the CCC a fascist organization is a pretty hot take that I haven't come across yet, I'll give you that, but as they say "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof".

Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Post by q3k »

O__________O wrote: post #27
q3k wrote: post #16

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https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2019/Fahrplan/ https://media.ccc.de/b/congress/2019

Thanks, just to make sure I am not missing anything, those are examples of presentations, but the proposals that were submitted for them are not provided, right? Looking for them myself, found to guides to research and submitting proposals which I added to the original request for examples; neither though appear to provide actual submission examples.

The most important elements of the submission (abstract and description) are there. There's no reason to try to 'game' this, just submit a good talk proposal on a topic that aligns with the focus tracks of the conference.

The CfP is handled by people who are able to tell apart a bullshit talk with a well-written proposal from a good talk with a proposal written by someone inexperienced. :)

Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Post by [deleted] »

sprash wrote: post #28
farhaven wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean the CCC that was founded in the rooms of leftist newspaper TAZ at a table that was stolen from the anarcho-left commune "Kommune 1"? If you don't understand that the CCC is and has always been anti-fascist, you're way off the path, friend. Edit: forgot to mention: any notion that Antifa is a state-organized thing is misguided at best and wrong and in bad faith at worst. It's just not true.

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Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Post by O__________O »

q3k wrote: post #32
O__________O wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, just to make sure I am not missing anything, those are examples of presentations, but the proposals that were submitted for them are not provided, right? Looking for them myself, found to guides to research and submitting proposals which I added to the original request for examples; neither though appear to provide actual submission examples.

The most important elements of the submission (abstract and description) are there. There's no reason to try to 'game' this, just submit a good talk proposal on a topic that aligns with the focus tracks of the conference. The CfP is handled by people who are able to tell apart a bullshit talk with a well-written proposal from a good talk with a proposal written by someone inexperienced. :)

Mainly just curious what gets submitted as is, since guessing a lot of people have no idea what to expect and seeing prior examples would significantly reduce that gap.

(Also swear I have seen something like blog post that showed this before, but unable to find it.)

Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Post by oger »

atoav wrote: post #22
sprash wrote: post #9

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> a state sponsored left wing terrorist organization [citation needed] I live next to a gathering point of leftist/antifa groups in Germany, and given the fact they are "state sponsered" they happen to get a lot of needlessly violent police response. I'd imagine a state which "sponsored" a group would protect them from the state's executive. Also the CCC publishes consistently statements that oppose the current Germa…

In addition the CCC is a regular contributor to parliamentary hearings - be it investigatory committees or in the context of new or revised legislation. They are an active part of society and their voice is being heard.

Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Post by johnny22 »

sen_armstrong wrote: post #14
sprash wrote: post #9

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I missed the drama at the time, are you referring to (edit: fixed link) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21905761 ?

and because i followed the clink and clicked the poster link I see "This account was suspended following an FBI request. Please contact the support team. "

I didn't realize that was a thing.

Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Post by jon-wood »

larodi wrote: post #7
lima wrote: post #5

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Agreed in principle, but 37C3 is a volunteer-run event. Admission fees are low and (barely) cover expenses.

Volunteering is a very tricky and shady business. If it was not - we’d all be volunteering and getting paid without tax. There’s a reason for some limits in volunteering laws whenever they exist in a country. I bet the same people running this whole thing are also very well paid techies. Not sure about the volunteers though. And third, not last, the fact something is run by volunteers does not change it’s nature - it…

I can see how from the outside you’d think that way. Hacker events are very different to big corporate conferences, and don’t intuitively make sense in a world where almost everything that happens is being done so someone can make a buck.

Everyone involved is a volunteer, or at the very most making significantly less money than they could running events of a similar scale in the real world, and they’re all doing it because there’s not really anything quite like these events outside of them. There’s a distinctly anarchic feeling to them, with a great many things that just organically happen because someone thought it would be fun, and then it got totally out of hand because other people latched on to it as well. The Chaos Post is a prime example of this, a postal service which is effectively a bunch of nerds cosplaying a worldwide postal service - I’ve known of people who addressed postcards to themselves, but at a future event on another continent, and they got delivered intact.

Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Post by capableweb »

johnny22 wrote: post #37
sen_armstrong wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I missed the drama at the time, are you referring to (edit: fixed link) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21905761 ?

and because i followed the clink and clicked the poster link I see "This account was suspended following an FBI request. Please contact the support team. " I didn't realize that was a thing.

Any user can put that on their own profile, if they feel like playing the victim card :)

Their last post was 2021-11-03 (https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=h1x) but a old archive of their profile from 2021-01-10 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210110145033/https://news.ycom...) shows that the text was already there, almost a year before their last post.

So yeah, seems they put it there themselves :)

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