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Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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All the we-pay-noone to participate is very weird in 2022 when information technology industries are potentially among the wealthiest. And particularly when the events are non-free-admission.

Agreed in principle, but 37C3 is a volunteer-run event. Admission fees are low and (barely) cover expenses.

Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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All the we-pay-noone to participate is very weird in 2022 when information technology industries are potentially among the wealthiest. And particularly when the events are non-free-admission.

Agreed in principle, but 37C3 is a volunteer-run event. Admission fees are low and (barely) cover expenses.

Volunteering is a very tricky and shady business. If it was not - we’d all be volunteering and getting paid without tax. There’s a reason for some limits in volunteering laws whenever they exist in a country.

I bet the same people running this whole thing are also very well paid techies. Not sure about the volunteers though.

And third, not last, the fact something is run by volunteers does not change it’s nature - it is still a business thing. Some expenses are paid for and eventually all the subcontractors are paid while the volunteers are not. Not fair at all.

Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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All the we-pay-noone to participate is very weird in 2022 when information technology industries are potentially among the wealthiest. And particularly when the events are non-free-admission.

This is not an industry conference. This is a hacker conference, by the community, for the community. Many people involved are students, who really benefit from the admission prices being as low as they are, and the cool projects you see around the assembly area are so cool because they are from tinkerers, people with time (which is often mutually exclusive with money), people who do cool stuff.

Paying the speakers would increase ticket prices (though not by much), create a "why do they get paid when everybody volunteers" effect that would discourage volunteers, and ultimately likely lower the quality of the conference.

They make pretty clear that if travel costs are really an issue, they'll find a solution.

Re: Call for Participation to Chaos Computer Club’s 37C3

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed in principle, but 37C3 is a volunteer-run event. Admission fees are low and (barely) cover expenses.

Volunteering is a very tricky and shady business. If it was not - we’d all be volunteering and getting paid without tax. There’s a reason for some limits in volunteering laws whenever they exist in a country. I bet the same people running this whole thing are also very well paid techies. Not sure about the volunteers though. And third, not last, the fact something is run by volunteers does not change it’s nature - it…

You're missing the point.

The whole thing is purposefully built like that. There is 0 interest in having people on stage that do it for the money. Instead it is about people that deeply care about a topic and want to share knowledge, ideas etc with others.

It is not a regular IT conference. It is not a business thing.

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