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Post by avgcorrection »

TEP_Kim_Il_Sung wrote: post #9
chaosbolt wrote: post #2

>Because you invaded a country for no reason (like we did to Iraq), (except the one you invaded is at your borders and we put our guy at its head a couple years ago, and the one we invaded is half a planet from us), we will bring forth the apocalypse. Humans are crazy, seeing how we're speaking about a nuclear war now vs how people spoke about it in the 60s, it's like a mass psychosis, we don't care anymore, or maybe…

> we will bring forth the apocalypse. This word is often misused. Are you still worried about someone bringing it forth, now that you know what it means? apocalypse (n.) late 14c., "revelation, disclosure," from Church Latin apocalypsis "revelation," from Greek apokalyptein "uncover, disclose, reveal," from apo "off, away from" (see apo-) + kalyptein "to cover, conceal" (from PIE root *kel- (1) "to cover, conceal, sa…

What’s the objection here?

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Post by avgcorrection »

yellowapple wrote: post #8
KingOfCoders wrote: post #6

"it probably doesn’t look dramatically different" Living in East Germany I hope it does!

"West Germany Best Germany" -- some military staffer while planning Eastern Europe's nuclear obliteration

Nukes in E. Germany wouldn’t be healthy for the W. G. ;)

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Post by jleahy »

TEP_Kim_Il_Sung wrote: post #9
chaosbolt wrote: post #2

>Because you invaded a country for no reason (like we did to Iraq), (except the one you invaded is at your borders and we put our guy at its head a couple years ago, and the one we invaded is half a planet from us), we will bring forth the apocalypse. Humans are crazy, seeing how we're speaking about a nuclear war now vs how people spoke about it in the 60s, it's like a mass psychosis, we don't care anymore, or maybe…

> we will bring forth the apocalypse. This word is often misused. Are you still worried about someone bringing it forth, now that you know what it means? apocalypse (n.) late 14c., "revelation, disclosure," from Church Latin apocalypsis "revelation," from Greek apokalyptein "uncover, disclose, reveal," from apo "off, away from" (see apo-) + kalyptein "to cover, conceal" (from PIE root *kel- (1) "to cover, conceal, sa…

The word refers to the book of revelation, which describes war followed by famine and death.

I would not say the word is being misused.

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Post by Silverback_VII »

chaosbolt wrote: post #2

>Because you invaded a country for no reason (like we did to Iraq), (except the one you invaded is at your borders and we put our guy at its head a couple years ago, and the one we invaded is half a planet from us), we will bring forth the apocalypse. Humans are crazy, seeing how we're speaking about a nuclear war now vs how people spoke about it in the 60s, it's like a mass psychosis, we don't care anymore, or maybe…

Isn't it the same frenzy with which people advocated for lockdowns, masks and destroyed some peoples careers because they didn't want to take the shot?

What I find inspiring is that billionaires like Musk are suddenly making moves to defuse the situation.

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Post by xiphias2 »

TEP_Kim_Il_Sung wrote: post #9
chaosbolt wrote: post #2

>Because you invaded a country for no reason (like we did to Iraq), (except the one you invaded is at your borders and we put our guy at its head a couple years ago, and the one we invaded is half a planet from us), we will bring forth the apocalypse. Humans are crazy, seeing how we're speaking about a nuclear war now vs how people spoke about it in the 60s, it's like a mass psychosis, we don't care anymore, or maybe…

> we will bring forth the apocalypse. This word is often misused. Are you still worried about someone bringing it forth, now that you know what it means? apocalypse (n.) late 14c., "revelation, disclosure," from Church Latin apocalypsis "revelation," from Greek apokalyptein "uncover, disclose, reveal," from apo "off, away from" (see apo-) + kalyptein "to cover, conceal" (from PIE root *kel- (1) "to cover, conceal, sa…

Oxford dictionary:

the complete final destruction of the world, as described in the biblical book of Revelation. "the bell's ringing is supposed to usher in the Apocalypse"

2. an event involving destruction or damage on a catastrophic scale. "the apocalypse of World War II"

Meanings of words change over time.

Re: Declassified US nuclear targets – interactive map

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Post by TEP_Kim_Il_Sung »

jleahy wrote: post #13
TEP_Kim_Il_Sung wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we will bring forth the apocalypse. This word is often misused. Are you still worried about someone bringing it forth, now that you know what it means? apocalypse (n.) late 14c., "revelation, disclosure," from Church Latin apocalypsis "revelation," from Greek apokalyptein "uncover, disclose, reveal," from apo "off, away from" (see apo-) + kalyptein "to cover, conceal" (from PIE root *kel- (1) "to cover, conceal, sa…

The word refers to the book of revelation, which describes war followed by famine and death. I would not say the word is being misused.

There is a better word used, specifically out of revealations:

Armageddon (n.) "cataclysmic final conflict," 1811, figurative use of the place-name in Revelation xvi.16, the site of the great and final conflict, from Hebrew Har Megiddon "Mount of Megiddo," a city in central Palestine, site of important Israelite battles. (New Testament) the scene of the final battle between the kings of the Earth at the end of the world; Armageddon (n.) any catastrophically destructive battle;

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Post by Rygian »

darthrupert wrote: post #15
avgcorrection wrote: post #10

The theory of deterrence is kind of like the idea that the way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a gun.

... completely valid?

Rather than thinking in blurry terms like "valid," I would see it more useful to think in terms of how many innocent people will lose their lives when good guy and bad guy use their guns.

Any arrangement that makes the number grow is worse than the others.

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Post by _visgean »

chaosbolt wrote: post #2

>Because you invaded a country for no reason (like we did to Iraq), (except the one you invaded is at your borders and we put our guy at its head a couple years ago, and the one we invaded is half a planet from us), we will bring forth the apocalypse. Humans are crazy, seeing how we're speaking about a nuclear war now vs how people spoke about it in the 60s, it's like a mass psychosis, we don't care anymore, or maybe…

Who are you quoting?

> we put our guy at its head a couple years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Ukrainian_presidential_el... this is denying that ukraine has agency of its own. Nobody put a guy anywhere. He was elected.

> we will bring forth the apocalypse.

The only country that is threating 1st strike is Russia.

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