How to solve this problem? Stop losing peoples bags, then we won’t feel the need to use AirTags.
I never even thought of using an AirTags until I read the article, it’s a good idea though.
Lufthansa has not banned AirTags
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Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags
#52My reading is that AirTags are permitted by IATA regulations.
[0] indicates that a small Lithium-metal battery, as is installed in an AirTag, can be transported as cargo on a passenger aircraft.
[1] indicates that low-powered communications like Bluetooth are permitted from active devices transported as cargo (page 9, item 3).
Am I missing something?
[0]: https://www.iata.org/contentassets/05e6d8742b0047259bf3a700b...
[1]: https://www.iata.org/contentassets/05e6d8742b0047259bf3a700b...
Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Car keys usually remained powered off until a button is pressed.
That is patently false. Keyless car fobs are constantly transmitting and it is possible to shut them down for long term storage with a key combination that almost nobody ever uses or even knows about.
Ah, yeah I was thinking keyless entry not hands-free entry.
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#54As an aside, are there ANY decent airlines left in EU? Just having booked tickets thought 3 separate airlines, I had to go throught multiple circles of hell: captcha (LOT), purposefully confusing flow, no luggage by default and next tier being x3-x5 the price (WizzAir, but others are similarly bad), hidden fees appearing during final steps (Norwegian), and everything RyanAir. I'm not even flying with checked luggage…
Lufthansa is one of the better ones. Typically I’ve found it better to book tickets via United though.
Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags
#55Except they have. A Lufthansa spokesperson has clarified the new rules for the German news site watson: https://www.watson.de/leben/urlaub%20&%20freizeit/879935671-... It rougly translate to: The device itself is not banned, but has to be shut off during flight. In practice this would mean that you would have to remove the battery from the airtag, since there is no powerswitch. But I will admit that this seems odd an…
Would it be okay to put it in a metal box forming a faraday cage? I could seriously see a demand for such a product if they follow through on this ban.
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#56How to solve this problem? Stop losing peoples bags, then we won’t feel the need to use AirTags. I never even thought of using an AirTags until I read the article, it’s a good idea though.
I recently used one with mobile self storage. I could see where they parked the trailer, and I could see when it was on the road being returned to me, which turned out to be very convenient. Didn’t have to guess when it wasn’t going to arrive.
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#57Why would an AirTag, or any personal baggage tracker, pose a threat to an airline and make them want to ban it? The benefits to consumers of using these devices are obvious. But it also seems that enabling customers to know where their lost luggage is would benefit the airlines as well. Can anyone thing of a reason (legitimate or not) that airlines would be motivated to prevent this?
Lufthansa had massive problems with lost luggage lately and people started adding airtags to their bags that led to arrests of some folks, so I guess they want to "protect their reputation".
>arrests
source(s)?
Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags
#58What am I missing? Comments all seem to be based on a false assumption. Nowhere in the article does it mention battery fires as the reason, or even the word battery/batteries.
The original article (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33127459) doesn't mention batteries either, but it would make sense only to effectively put them in airplane mode. Hundreds of tags transmitting is bad for the same reason that phone's have to be shut off during flights. It even says "This is specifically because of the transmission function".
Again, this isn't about battery fires - which is why they are't specifying quartz watches or pocket calculators too, but AirTags.
Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags
#59Except they have. A Lufthansa spokesperson has clarified the new rules for the German news site watson: https://www.watson.de/leben/urlaub%20&%20freizeit/879935671-... It rougly translate to: The device itself is not banned, but has to be shut off during flight. In practice this would mean that you would have to remove the battery from the airtag, since there is no powerswitch. But I will admit that this seems odd an…
Or grant the owner the ability to temporarily stop an AirTag from broadcasting its signal for a specified amount of time.
Do it right before your luggage is checked in up until the estimated time of arrival.
Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course they are also banned, if they also use lithium batteries, though who flies with car keys? Especially in their checked in luggage?
Yes, but my point is that if they agree car keys are banned then AirTags are banned. If they say car keys are fine then they have no standing for banning AirTags. And yes, I agree that checking one’s car keys is silly.
I think it’s a stupid decision by Lufthansa, but to be fair, these keys will only transmit when prompted by a radio signal from a specific car, whereas an AirTag will transmit when prompted by any iPhone. There are, surprisingly, more iPhones inside the typical airplane than cars.