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Lufthansa has not banned AirTags

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Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags

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Except they have. A Lufthansa spokesperson has clarified the new rules for the German news site watson: https://www.watson.de/leben/urlaub%20&%20freizeit/879935671-... It rougly translate to: The device itself is not banned, but has to be shut off during flight. In practice this would mean that you would have to remove the battery from the airtag, since there is no powerswitch. But I will admit that this seems odd an…

And this is why Airtags shouldn't have speakers.

How are speakers related to the ban, which tsimionescu suggests (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33135627) is just related to the Li battery problem?

Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags

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Really simple question is whether car keys are banned under the same rules. They are powered by the same types of batteries.

Of course they are also banned, if they also use lithium batteries, though who flies with car keys? Especially in their checked in luggage?

Yes, but my point is that if they agree car keys are banned then AirTags are banned.

If they say car keys are fine then they have no standing for banning AirTags.

And yes, I agree that checking one’s car keys is silly.

Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags

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Why would an AirTag, or any personal baggage tracker, pose a threat to an airline and make them want to ban it? The benefits to consumers of using these devices are obvious. But it also seems that enabling customers to know where their lost luggage is would benefit the airlines as well. Can anyone thing of a reason (legitimate or not) that airlines would be motivated to prevent this?

Various airline regulatory bodies have rules that prohibit both devices that transmit wireless signals being carried in the cargo hold, as well as devices that have batteries being carried in the cargo hold. AirTags, while probably not the intended targets of such rules, technically fit both of these categories. The airline is effectively just saying "we follow the rules we are supposed to follow". In practice, I dou…

The bottom line is that a lot of literal rules related to electronic devices are arguably broken tens of thousands of times a day. At the same time, airlines also have a generally consistent approach to the things they actually decide to care about which they have almost certainly discussed with regulators.

Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags

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Really simple question is whether car keys are banned under the same rules. They are powered by the same types of batteries.

Of course they are also banned, if they also use lithium batteries, though who flies with car keys? Especially in their checked in luggage?

I always fly with my car keys (almost always in my carry-on bag) even when I take the train to the airport. Simply because my car keys are on the same keychain as my house keys, and I never leave home for anything without those..

Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course they are also banned, if they also use lithium batteries, though who flies with car keys? Especially in their checked in luggage?

I always fly with my car keys (almost always in my carry-on bag) even when I take the train to the airport. Simply because my car keys are on the same keychain as my house keys, and I never leave home for anything without those..

Oops, I am so used to taking a taxi (I don't drive) to the airport that I completely forgot many people actually drive there... Quite an idiot moment.

Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags

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Really simple question is whether car keys are banned under the same rules. They are powered by the same types of batteries.

Car keys usually remained powered off until a button is pressed.

Do they though? Lots of cars unlock when you get near to them with the key, which I imagine is technology effectively identical to an AirTag.

Re: Lufthansa has not banned AirTags

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Really simple question is whether car keys are banned under the same rules. They are powered by the same types of batteries.

Of course they are also banned, if they also use lithium batteries, though who flies with car keys? Especially in their checked in luggage?

> who flies with car keys?

Literally everyone who parked at the airport?

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