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My Trip to Space Filled Me with Overwhelming Sadness

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Re: My Trip to Space Filled Me with Overwhelming Sadness

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Worth watching is the moment Shatner tries to explain his experience to Bezos, and Bezos barely listens. A portrait of two very different men. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1AilPvC37c

Wow, at the beginning I was thinking 'you can't really tell if he's listening or not, looking at him through sunglasses, and to be fair I would struggle to hear/pay attention over all that in thale background' - but by the end... Yeah it's very clear where he wants to be!

Re: My Trip to Space Filled Me with Overwhelming Sadness

#42

Worth watching is the moment Shatner tries to explain his experience to Bezos, and Bezos barely listens. A portrait of two very different men. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1AilPvC37c

> You want a little of this?

From the top comment:

> It becomes that much worse when you remember that Shatner is a recovering alcoholic, and lost his wife to an alcohol related drowning incident.

Bezos is a real piece of shit.

Re: My Trip to Space Filled Me with Overwhelming Sadness

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post #26

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It's not like things changed after... iraq, iraq 2, afghanistan, syria and many others... dead kids from all over US and europe losing their lives for some rich people to get richer. Somehow occupying sovereign countries and killing kids is a bad thing only when putin does it.

> It's not like things changed after... iraq, iraq 2, afghanistan, syria and many others... Conscription is a huge difference. Hundreds of thousands were sent to Vietnam against their will. > Somehow occupying sovereign countries and killing kids is a bad thing only when putin does it. Ugh this both sideism.

And the ones sent to iraq wanted to be there... and die there? Or to afghanistan?

Can't afford US college? Go to army! Can't afford a doctor? Army will fix you up! Join, a few peaceful years at a few bases, you'll have a college degree, you'll make mama proud, just sign here, you're 18 already, you can't buy beer yet, but you can join the army!

Add some "fighting for US freedom" propaganda, and end up as a homeless disabled veteran after the war.

Re: My Trip to Space Filled Me with Overwhelming Sadness

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> I learned later that I was not alone in this feeling. It is called the “Overview Effect” and is not uncommon among astronauts, including Yuri Gagarin, Michael Collins, Sally Ride, and many others. Essentially, when someone travels to space and views Earth from orbit, a sense of the planet’s fragility takes hold in an ineffable, instinctive manner. Author Frank White first coined the term in 1987: “There are no bord…

> You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics looks so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, “Look at that, you son of a bitch.” ―Edgar D. Mitchell

> [Zaphod] had seen the whole universe stretching to infinity around him—everything. And with it had come the clear and extraordinary knowledge that he was the most important thing in it.

—Douglas Adams

Re: My Trip to Space Filled Me with Overwhelming Sadness

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I see it as less “both sideism” and more “maybe we can be the baddies too”.

We are the baddies. I live in a small EU country, and have soldiers in syria now. We could atleast have pulled them back home, before pointing a finger at putin, but we didn't even do that (and they'd all fit in a minibus). We're currently destroying our own economies because someone else is doing something that we've been doing for years now. Technically we deserve being cold and maybe some kind of a revolution, bec…

Especially as someone from a small EU country, this seems completely different to me, unless living in a Putin puppet state is an acceptable alternative to you.

Invading other countries is bad (including when the EU does it).

Invading and massacring Ukraine is bad.

Both can be true at the same time. And only because we haven’t eliminated the first doesn’t mean we shouldn’t fight the second.

Re: My Trip to Space Filled Me with Overwhelming Sadness

#47

Worth watching is the moment Shatner tries to explain his experience to Bezos, and Bezos barely listens. A portrait of two very different men. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1AilPvC37c

I watched it live. It was uncomfortable and heartbreaking. William had a very profound experience and he wanted to explain it and thank Jeff. Jeff could not even focus long enough to let William get a few sentences out. Jeff’ s “team” (I think led by his significant other) was essentially throwing a frat party behind him - screaming ”whooo” and drinking/spraying champagne. It was sad.

Re: My Trip to Space Filled Me with Overwhelming Sadness

#48

Worth watching is the moment Shatner tries to explain his experience to Bezos, and Bezos barely listens. A portrait of two very different men. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1AilPvC37c

He does look a bit of a dim-witted moron, but in his defence he'd also been in space and had his own experience - he wanted to celebrate.

Re: My Trip to Space Filled Me with Overwhelming Sadness

#49

Worth watching is the moment Shatner tries to explain his experience to Bezos, and Bezos barely listens. A portrait of two very different men. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1AilPvC37c

Just 2 human struggling with their place in existence.

One has his identity shattered, other not trying to let it in of fear of going down the same path.

Both makes sense.

I'm waiting for the day the first psychedelic space flight retreat company gets off :)

Re: My Trip to Space Filled Me with Overwhelming Sadness

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics looks so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, “Look at that, you son of a bitch.” ―Edgar D. Mitchell

> [Zaphod] had seen the whole universe stretching to infinity around him—everything. And with it had come the clear and extraordinary knowledge that he was the most important thing in it. —Douglas Adams

Missing some important context on that one lol. The "real" version of that device drives people crazy with their insignificance. The one Zaphod goes into is in a simulation designed for him, where he really is the most important thing.
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