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Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by taneq »

spideymans wrote: post #334
smabie wrote: post #318

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Isn't an unstable network experience better than no network experience?

A lot of apps have cached experiences that they'll only show you if you have no network connection. If the app detects a very weak LTE connection, it'll try to load data over the network. That means that on a weak connection, I often end up being served nothing , rather than the data that's already cached on device. As a tangent, I feel that a lot of these problems are fundamentally because engineers don't understand…

> Unless you live in a large metropolitan area with a well used underground transit network

Or anywhere more than ~50km from the nearest town. I dunno what coverage is like in the U.S. but in parts of Australia it’s not uncommon to lose reception when country driving.

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Post by hulitu »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #487
layer8 wrote: post #428

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See for example here: https://safetyfirst.airbus.com/lithium-batteries-safe-to-fly...

That article, while interesting, does not address button batteries. Maybe I missed it. I found it interesting that you can ship any amount of lithium batteries as cargo.

Button batteries are a different type. They don't overheat when shorted.

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Post by taneq »

hahajk wrote: post #395
spideymans wrote: post #334

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A lot of apps have cached experiences that they'll only show you if you have no network connection. If the app detects a very weak LTE connection, it'll try to load data over the network. That means that on a weak connection, I often end up being served nothing , rather than the data that's already cached on device. As a tangent, I feel that a lot of these problems are fundamentally because engineers don't understand…

...or you live in a dense suburb where they never bothered to put up towers, or a rural area where towers are more scarce, or any where that you have to go in a building without wifi.. I don't honestly believe many developers don't experience this a lot. It's probably just such a transitory experience that it's not worth the rearchitecting required to really solve it.

I’d believe they don’t experience it at their desks at work. And they probably aren’t often thinking about work when they’re at home or visiting rural areas.

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Post by kaba0 »

tsimionescu wrote: post #485
filoleg wrote: post #373

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If you turn off wifi from settings instead of the control center (top right corner pull), it will stay turned off. If you turn it off from the control center, it will indeed say "Turning off WiFi until tomorrow".

Can you at least get from Control Center to the corresponding Settings page easily now (long press, hard press, etc), or is Apple dying on that hill?

Can only check on iphone, but long press on wifi, then again on wifi on the subsequent menu (where you can select which network to connect to) has “wifi settings” at the bottom.

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Post by mytailorisrich »

patal wrote: post #496
andrewia wrote: post #490

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Interesting. Since AirTags use standard CR2032 batteries, that means you could swap in an alkaline-based battery and avoid that regulation.

Where do you get that from? The citation says: lithium metal OR lithium ion cells OR batteries

No, the wording is lithium metal/ion cells/batteries.

It's all cells and batteries that contain lithium.

Wording: "Portable electronic devices containing lithium metal or lithium ion cells or batteries"

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Post by forty »

GuB-42 wrote: post #387
core-utility wrote: post #327

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Is the cell phone transmission theater even lifted in the US? I still get asked to turn on airplane mode regularly (though Wi-Fi is okay)

Actually, 2G does interfere with aircraft communication, I don't think it is the case for other bands. You may already have heard the interference. Just before the phone rings, you may hear some a characteristic beeping sound on your headphones or speakers. And guess what, pilots hear it in their headsets too, aviation headsets are just regular wired headsets. I fly small planes and I hear it regularly. No big deal,…

I'm surprised that anyone who believe that any passenger could mess with airplane communications by not turning their phone off would accept to take that risk and board a plane at all :)

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Post by franga2000 »

ranger_danger wrote: post #497
vineyardmike wrote: post #449

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> services that transmit audio are explicitly banned Because taking a call is annoying AF to the 50-100 other people in the shared giant tube. I’ve been seated next to people who insist im not on a call, this is FaceTime and I’ve always wanted to yell at them for their disrespect.

> Because taking a call is annoying AF to the 50-100 other people in the shared giant tube. Then why did airplanes used to have built-in phones in every seat?

This hasn't been the case for over 20 years on most planes and the onboard phones were so expensive that only business or 1st class passengers would even consider using then. As usual, their convenience was valued more than everyone else's. I'm sure nowadays if a 1st class passenger got on a call over the in-flight wifi, the staff wouldn't bother them either.

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Post by moontear »

How does this help me when luggage is lost? I imagine standing at the lost luggage counter pointing at my phone screen: „But it’s there! Look!!!“, and the poor soul at the counter can only say „yes, we will get it to you asap“.

I totally get the peace of mind aspect, knowing where it is. But I don’t believe it helps me getting my luggage back if it is „lost“.

Imagine the worst case: the luggage fell down some escalator somewhere during transit. Or somewhere on the runway. And you then see it lying THERE! I SEE IT! How would the lost luggage counter contact a person picking up the luggage from there? I don’t think there are processes in place for this.

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