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Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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You're supposed to put your phone on airplane mode in a train or subway too, but most people don't: https://pocketnow.com/airplane-mode/ The problem is significantly lessened for trains vs. planes though because you're traveling an order of magnitude slower and hence you switch cells an order of magnitude less frequently. Also many commuter rails run alongside major highways or boulevards, where the cell systems are…

> You're supposed to put your phone on airplane mode in a train or subway too, That's a pretty insane claim in most of the world. Lots of people expect and enjoy full coverage on train or subway rides. I work at a carrier and the signal strength and cell capacity on trains are part of the top metrics we use to benchmark the quality of our network and the customer experience.

>> You're supposed to put your phone on airplane mode in a train or subway too,

> That's a pretty insane claim in most of the world.

So is this:

> but very few folks will travel long distances at high speeds on a train.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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This was the US. EU passenger rights are so awesome.

These rights hardly work, at keast Lufthansa doesnt care and good luck going to courts for your rights. Not worth the paper these laws are written on.

Lufthansa does not bother with those EU laws.

They cancel flights, put up signs that seek your own hotel & transport and after that they do not give any contact.

Last leg of my flight was cancelled in airport and they closed all service desks, because there were too many people who needed help...

Over three months and still haven't got human reply from my hotel & flight reimbursement. 4000 eur still missing from Lufthansa for what I had to pay hotels & new flights. They only reimbursed cancelled leg/unused tickets for my group, so 4x100 eur...

Total scam company.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Note that the reason for airport mode is a courtesy to cell-phone carriers. It's not any air safety issue. Rather, 300-500 cell phones all trying to contact the next cell tower, multiple times per minute, would wreak havoc on cell service. https://www.inverse.com/article/51015-cell-phone-use-on-airp... At one point, when both cell phones and laptops were new, there was perhaps a risk to the airplane's electronics. Mo…

Before landing on the last flight I was on, the flight attendants requested that everyone turn off their phones (even if in airplane mode) due to the weather conditions while landing. Does anyone know what purpose that could possibly serve? This was in France if that's a relevant clue.

It's because they want people to be attentive if shit hits the fan during landing. Being attentive make you respond faster if you need to evacuate.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Translation of the cited statement by the Lufthansa spokesperson: “ Baggage trackers belong to the category of Portable Electronic Devices and are therefore subject to the Dangerous Goods regulations issued by the International Civil Aviation Organization for carriage in aircraft. Accordingly, the trackers must be deactivated during the flight due to their transmission function, similar to cell phones, laptops, table…

Interesting. Since AirTags use standard CR2032 batteries, that means you could swap in an alkaline-based battery and avoid that regulation.

AirTags also have a two way bluetooth radio, which is prohibited: "due to their transmission function"

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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post #492

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These rights hardly work, at keast Lufthansa doesnt care and good luck going to courts for your rights. Not worth the paper these laws are written on.

Lufthansa does not bother with those EU laws. They cancel flights, put up signs that seek your own hotel & transport and after that they do not give any contact. Last leg of my flight was cancelled in airport and they closed all service desks, because there were too many people who needed help... Over three months and still haven't got human reply from my hotel & flight reimbursement. 4000 eur still missing from Luft…

Similar experiences with Lufthansa. Using legal mechanism yourself it's an uphill battle, you could use something like airhelp if your flight got cancelled/delayed for long.

Regarding reimbursements they can't help, I'm waiting myself one from April and one from June. One flight hotels (police told passengers to leave airport and pay for hotels), other lost luggage. Impossible to get any information from Lufthansa after I sent my bills and demands.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Translation of the cited statement by the Lufthansa spokesperson: “ Baggage trackers belong to the category of Portable Electronic Devices and are therefore subject to the Dangerous Goods regulations issued by the International Civil Aviation Organization for carriage in aircraft. Accordingly, the trackers must be deactivated during the flight due to their transmission function, similar to cell phones, laptops, table…

Interesting. Since AirTags use standard CR2032 batteries, that means you could swap in an alkaline-based battery and avoid that regulation.

Where do you get that from? The citation says:

lithium metal

OR

lithium ion cells

OR

batteries

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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i fly exclusively delta, and i always get asked to turn airplane mode on and any services that transmit audio are explicitly banned while on board (Discord, teams, etc.)

> services that transmit audio are explicitly banned Because taking a call is annoying AF to the 50-100 other people in the shared giant tube. I’ve been seated next to people who insist im not on a call, this is FaceTime and I’ve always wanted to yell at them for their disrespect.

> Because taking a call is annoying AF to the 50-100 other people in the shared giant tube.

Then why did airplanes used to have built-in phones in every seat?

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Interesting. Since AirTags use standard CR2032 batteries, that means you could swap in an alkaline-based battery and avoid that regulation.

Where do you get that from? The citation says: lithium metal OR lithium ion cells OR batteries

I read the latter part as "lithium ion... cells or batteries".

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Translation of the cited statement by the Lufthansa spokesperson: “ Baggage trackers belong to the category of Portable Electronic Devices and are therefore subject to the Dangerous Goods regulations issued by the International Civil Aviation Organization for carriage in aircraft. Accordingly, the trackers must be deactivated during the flight due to their transmission function, similar to cell phones, laptops, table…

So do cargo monitoring (temperature/tilt/vibration/tampering) devices, which are in a lot of commercial cargo - especially vaccine shipments, but any sort of sensitive equipment being air-freighted. So do wireless earbuds, watches both smart and "dumb", hearing aides, sport sensors including chest heartrate monitors and bike sensors/computers, travel alarms, book lights, e-readers, keychain flashlights, film cameras,…

Please don't spread FUD.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Well, they used to come scream at you if you were reading a Kindle during takeoff, so that part has relaxed at least So far as I know you're supposed to put your phone into airplane mode to turn the cellular radio off, but they don't seem to care if you use bluetooth any more

The reason for that one I've heard from pilot friends is just that they want you upright and alert during takeoff and landing. I've been told to stop reading a book during a landing once. But imagine most of the flight crew don't want to deal with the potential fights from telling someone to put away a non-cellular device.

I seem to remember from "Cockpit Confidential" that things could get thrown around in the air during a bumpy landing, causing a risk of head injury to passengers. This includes books.
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