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Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Do the AirTags have lithium ion cells? I thought they have the no explosive cr2032 or thereabouts…

cr2032 are lithium, but not usually the same chemistry as rechargeable lithium ion. (side note, some cr2032 cells for use as battery backup for realtime clocks are actually rechargeable, which is pretty cool) However, as the sibling comment says, they are allowed because there is a threshold below which batteries are allowed.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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what a joke, I guess that's one way to deal with their terrible luggage handling.. I've been now waiting since a flight on August 20th to receive my "lost" luggage from them. I guess policy like this is easier than fixing the actual issue. The only update I've gotten is this email two weeks ago, their hotline and website are completely useless. Via DeepL > Good day, > We apologize that you have not yet received your…

luggage this summer in europe has been a mess. air france lost my bag in paris on june 12 and has neglected to compensate me or return it. no way to get a hold of anyone who can do anything either-- left me wishing i had put an airtag in there myself.

> luggage this summer in europe has been a mess.

Not just this summer. Europe has been worse than worldwide since at least 2018.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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In theory yes, but in practice it could easily cost you more to deal with the airline and it might well be that you don’t have the receipts anymore. With another European airline I recently waited exactly one day less than the three weeks required for them to deliver a child seat. That’s almost three weeks of not having one to safely transport my child, no support or compensation. Since I was returning to my country…

> That’s almost three weeks of not having one to safely transport my child, no support or compensation. Why not just buy a new one and charge the airline for it?

Charge... how?

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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NFC range is so low you’d have to scan the exact right spot in the bag. Good luck.

I believe there are nfc scanners with much more capable antennas that for instance can scan a passport from 10 ft away…

I think you’re mixing up RFID and NFC.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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The cell tower network is designed to cope with devices located on the surface of the planet, i.e. where the geometry between the handsets and the tower is roughly two-dimensional. I am also unconvinced that handsets on aeroplanes are really a problem for the network, but trains aren't the counterexample you're making them out to be.

Flight patterns are also pretty consistent. Tower planners have probably given some thought to it.

That doesn't address the 2 vs 3D problem the person you’re replying to outlined.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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what a joke, I guess that's one way to deal with their terrible luggage handling.. I've been now waiting since a flight on August 20th to receive my "lost" luggage from them. I guess policy like this is easier than fixing the actual issue. The only update I've gotten is this email two weeks ago, their hotline and website are completely useless. Via DeepL > Good day, > We apologize that you have not yet received your…

luggage this summer in europe has been a mess. air france lost my bag in paris on june 12 and has neglected to compensate me or return it. no way to get a hold of anyone who can do anything either-- left me wishing i had put an airtag in there myself.

You’d think they’re stuck in a luggage area and airtags would help you hasten them getting to you? Not sure how it’d solve a logistics problem that is not yours but the airline’s. Thinking further I think the airlines should stick their own air tags on luggage while in transit and get it back when customer picks up their luggage (could be a deposit based system). This would help them automatically track all luggage.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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There are two kinds of bags: carry-on and lost.

I first read the above quote on a site dedicated to techniques on packing only one bag per person on a trip of any length - and it’s been a mantra ever since.

So much easier to skip baggage claim and walk out of the airport.

I still put an AirTag in the carry-on - helps in case it gets stolen at the hotel/etc.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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The cat is out of the bag. There is no way that people are going to stop putting AirTags in their luggage, at least not while airlines are still constantly losing luggage and fighting people on reimbursement.

I get that it's inconvenient and could be used nefariously. I'm not sure what kinds of worker protections airline staff have in Europe, but I can see why it might be problematic that I'm tracking the employee as they drive their van full of lost luggage to my hotel. Still, it's my stuff, so I'm going to keep putting AirTags in every bag I travel with. I'm sorry, but.. what are they going to do? Ban me from the airlin…

I don’t see why it’s problematic to see where your bag is. The employee isn’t driving from their home with your luggage- and if they were, there are bigger problems.

You have a point where he may make multiple stops which may include the personal addresses of folks also on your flight. But I can’t imagine you have enough ability to match a person with an address this way.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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> Note that the reason for airport mode is a courtesy to cell-phone carriers. This doesn’t track. What about trains?

You're supposed to put your phone on airplane mode in a train or subway too, but most people don't: https://pocketnow.com/airplane-mode/ The problem is significantly lessened for trains vs. planes though because you're traveling an order of magnitude slower and hence you switch cells an order of magnitude less frequently. Also many commuter rails run alongside major highways or boulevards, where the cell systems are…

> You're supposed to put your phone on airplane mode in a train or subway too,

That's a pretty insane claim in most of the world. Lots of people expect and enjoy full coverage on train or subway rides. I work at a carrier and the signal strength and cell capacity on trains are part of the top metrics we use to benchmark the quality of our network and the customer experience.

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