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Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

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Post by phpisthebest »

barkingcat wrote: post #325
cmeacham98 wrote: post #44

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Look, I like open source federated ecosystems like Mastodon, but claiming Twitter or Facebook will be shut down any time soon is laughable. I'm not sure I could reliably predict whether Twitter or Mastodon will live longer.

Once the twitter sale is completed, the new owner of twitter can chose whatever they want to do with it, including shutting it down - which in this milleu would be something that the buyer of twitter will consider doing just for LOL's. imagine the trolling potential of a rolling outage of twitter or ooops "new owner" deleted the database as a joke. Or replace all twitter profiles with sayings from Doge. before you sa…

The salt mine and troll would be much greater to bring back trump and merge with truth social putting twitter on the fediverse

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

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Post by pessimizer »

smcn wrote: post #280
pessimizer wrote: post #263

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That's mistaking the map for the terrain. It's a networked system for leaving and retrieving messages. It's not a group of friends. The way you expect to migrate a messaging system is by moving the messages.

To confirm, I wish they would migrate posts, too, but I do not believe that the lack of that means that you cannot call it a migration. However, your definition seems overly pedantic? It defines itself[0] as a social network with an emphasis on audience. Messaging is merely the method of interaction. [Edit] "audience" is incorrect, I should've said "people" 0: https://joinmastodon.org/

A "social network" is a networked system for leaving and retrieving messages. Again, it is not a group of friends. It is a messaging system for a group of friends, just like a map is a graphical system for navigating a piece of terrain.

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

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Post by lovich »

Chris2048 wrote: post #326
lovich wrote: post #224

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If you’re going to stretch definitions like that “anytime soon” can go as far. It was a reasonable paraphrase

If by "stretch" you mean "consider the context", then no, it's an unreasoned paraphrase.

Given the context interpreted the original post as implying that the end of those services was in short term timeframe. And apparently so did the poster im defending.

That may not have been what the original poster intended but if that’s the case then they should use less ambiguous language.

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

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Post by [deleted] »

pessimizer wrote: post #342
smcn wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To confirm, I wish they would migrate posts, too, but I do not believe that the lack of that means that you cannot call it a migration. However, your definition seems overly pedantic? It defines itself[0] as a social network with an emphasis on audience. Messaging is merely the method of interaction. [Edit] "audience" is incorrect, I should've said "people" 0: https://joinmastodon.org/

A "social network" is a networked system for leaving and retrieving messages. Again, it is not a group of friends. It is a messaging system for a group of friends, just like a map is a graphical system for navigating a piece of terrain.

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Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

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Post by riffic »

ryanisnan wrote: post #242
riffic wrote: post #226

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> Let's talk once twitter shuts down. Because it will. Bingo. I say this all the time, Twitter is not immune from being a member of this list (Defunct social networking sites, wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_social_network... The Fediverse (or Federated Social Web as it was previously referred to in 2007[0] or so when it was first envisioned) will never close. Single installations may, but t…

Wouldn't the answer for most people to "What happens when Twitter shuts down?" be, "Well I'll just move to the next social media site". I don't necessarily hold that opinion, but I get the impression most folks I know do.

people will move to the next social media site (or jump to another medium if it's good enough) even before Twitter shuts down.

This happens all the time and there are parallels with other format / medium shifts (Gutenberg invents movable type, newspapers supplanted by news reels at the cinema -> people buy radio receivers -> broadcast television -> cable news -> whatever we have today with our always-on internet connections and services.

My main point here is that audiences are fluid, we can respect their intelligence, and they go where the content is.

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

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Post by giantrobot »

ByThyGrace wrote: post #330
qznc wrote: post #63

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Let’s use Google+ as an example. It did shut down and still not all wounds have healed yet. For example, the indie RPG scene laments its demise. Edit: A Reddit thread as citation https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/udegsl/does_anyone_hav...

TIL about .compact on reddit threads. Thanks!

Wait until you learn about .json and .rss on Reddit threads! IIRC they used to work for subreddits as well but I have not tested either in...forever.

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

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Post by smcn »

pessimizer wrote: post #342
smcn wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To confirm, I wish they would migrate posts, too, but I do not believe that the lack of that means that you cannot call it a migration. However, your definition seems overly pedantic? It defines itself[0] as a social network with an emphasis on audience. Messaging is merely the method of interaction. [Edit] "audience" is incorrect, I should've said "people" 0: https://joinmastodon.org/

A "social network" is a networked system for leaving and retrieving messages. Again, it is not a group of friends. It is a messaging system for a group of friends, just like a map is a graphical system for navigating a piece of terrain.

It seems as though you're putting emphasis on the wrong thing. Mastodon clearly believe the emphasis is on the _network_, as in, the people you follow and who follow you.

But I'm not entirely sure why you're arguing semantics with me. It can, by their definition, be considered migration.

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

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Post by politician »

howenterprisey wrote: post #215
tfrutuoso wrote: post #163

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Google isn't really a good example, they love killing off services on a whim. Meta closing down Facebook would be much more... dramatic, shall we say.

Google+ is a great example of the point that once a community's platform gets shut down, it's often tough to find another place to meet, and some people don't survive the transition.

The main problem here is that contact information is lost. If there's one problem that distributed blockchain technology would be the better solution for, it's a durable collection of self-managed identifiers and groups of identifiers.
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