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U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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This has nothing to do with the law and every to do with the HOA that the people in this article from 2009 willing joined when they bought their home.

I know it's fun to hate on the USA at every given opportunity but this is less some systemic issue with the US and more a squabble between a few individuals who are violating a contract they chose to sign, and their neighbors who also signed said contract because they wanted to live in a place without laundry flapping about.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

#172
I'm in this thread as an American confused about why everyone cares about this.

Everyone has a dryer here, either in their place of residence or in the location they do their laundry. Washer and dryer are a set pair. They're either stacked on top of each for compactness (some apartments) or they're next to each other in the same room. I've never even heard of a place in the US that doesn't have dryers where they have washing machines. Even homeless people can use dryers, assuming they can afford to use the laundry in the first place. (And no the hot humid air doesn't dump into the house/apartment, it dumps to the outside.)

Yes I occasionally hang up laundry, but the dryers are always there. It's not an access issue.

This isn't something people complain about or even mention here. It's usually only recent immigrants to the country who hang up laundry like this however.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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It's 6% of residential use . Residential use is 39% of all electrical generation. So driers are 2.3%. That number doesn't surprise me in the least. Residential electrical consumption is trivial if you don't include heating. So having an appliance use 5% of all home electricity seems pretty low?

I'm actually struggling to figure out the remaining 94%. I guess AC is like #1, fridge, tv/computer.... lights ... ?

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Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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My experience in the US is that most folks' attitude about their home is that they should be able to do whatever they want, but no one around them should be able to change anything unless they like it.

America is full of people who believe in their right to be completely their own person, and that everyone else should be exactly like them as well. By force, if necessary.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

#175
I love hanging my laundry, but wouldn't appreciate it it my neighbors front yard. It is a jerk move if they have another option.

I guess it falls in the free speech category. I don't like what you say but I support your right to do it.

HOA residents also have the right to make binging agreements, for better or worse.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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> For the pic seems to be her home, her property and she can't even hang her clothes to dry.

Sure, but there's limits to what you can display on your front lawn without annoying the neighbours, no?

As per the pic in the article, she's handing her clothing in the front yard, which, even in a country where drying-by-hanging is the norm, is still considered tacky and stupid.[1]

Now, maybe she doesn't have a backyard, or maybe it doesn't have enough space, but the article didn't say so. They also pick a single quote used in the anonymous notes - "Don't want to see your underwear" (or something similar), without the rest of the anonymous note. My guess is that she has already had notes asking her to do this in the privacy of her backyard.

I wish they (or the woman herself) could have stated why it has to be the front lawn or nothing at all.

> This coming from the country where morons want to own a gun to protect their property and all other bs excuses, it's rather comedic.

[1] I'm 46 years old in said country, and I have never before in my life seen people hang their laundry on their front lawn. How common is this in Portugal?

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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space cooling: 15.5% space heating: 15.2% water heating: 11.6% refrigeration: 7.1% lightning: 3.9% television: 3.7% computer: 2.4% other: 40.7% source: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/use-of-elect...

I know it's an average, but I'm somewhat surprised that refrigeration is half of heating/cooling. I suppose gas heat offsets much of the heating requirement in some areas and some parts of the US have minimal cooling needs.

If you include gas heating, heating alone becomes twelve times the energy use of refrigeration: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/use-of-energy/homes.php

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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> The town has a standard where you don’t hang laundry though. Indeed. And that is oppressive. > Otherwise she’s just doing as she pleases and that’s antisocial behavior. Doing as we please as long as it does not hurt others is the definition of freedom and liberty. > As to who it “would hurt” - it could very well hurt everyone’s property values and certainly hurts everyone’s eyes to have to see a car parked on the f…

The OP's attitude is one that can't be logically argued against as it's not a reasonable position. They have no real reason to be against hanging laundry other then "I don't like it" and so will come up with BS reasons to obscure that fact.

Would lower property prices compared to a similar neighborhood without clothes hanging in the front yard be a real reason?

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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> The town has a standard where you don’t hang laundry though. Indeed. And that is oppressive. > Otherwise she’s just doing as she pleases and that’s antisocial behavior. Doing as we please as long as it does not hurt others is the definition of freedom and liberty. > As to who it “would hurt” - it could very well hurt everyone’s property values and certainly hurts everyone’s eyes to have to see a car parked on the f…

The OP's attitude is one that can't be logically argued against as it's not a reasonable position. They have no real reason to be against hanging laundry other then "I don't like it" and so will come up with BS reasons to obscure that fact.

Actually, I don't necessarily mind it. It should be done in the backyard or sides if possible though as it's probably an eyesore to numerous neighbors.

But the bigger point is if the community has a standard or by-law that she is just ignoring. Just doing what you want is no way to live in a society as is reflective of the selfish turn we've taken. It's inconsiderate of you neighbors and part of living socially is that a part of "who we are - our true selfs" has to be sacrificed to make ourselves bearable to others. We can't just expect everyone to accept "our truth" or whatever. Otherwise, you're antisocial.

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