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U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by jalk »

mattmanser wrote: post #85
morsch wrote: post #4

For the entirety of my life, we've hung or clothes to dry inside. No dryer. No, they don't smell bad. Yes, even with small kids in the household. No, there is no problem with mold. No, it doesn't take forever, I'd estimate twelve hours most of the year, depending on how fast you spun them (typically 1200+ rpm). Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. In terms of energy efficien…

Have you only lived in one climate? One type of house? There are a lot of different buildings and climates where you will have problems hanging laundry indoors. It definitely can cause mould, it definitely is a health risk without paying extra for dehumidifiers. And dehumidifiers are not great for the environment either as well as costing extra. So two good reasons to hang out rather than in. Plus hanging laundry out…

3rd reason is that you clothes will last a lot longer (the tuble-dryer lint-tray sais it all)

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by wyldfire »

gambiting wrote: post #113
blakesterz wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought for SURE that was going to be one of those made up stats from stupid magazine... nope... seems like that's actually true!? That's WAY higher than I would've ever guessed.

You want a crazy stat? US uses more energy just for its AC usage, than the entire continent of Africa uses for literally everything combined together.

It's probably more meaningful to compare energy usage per-capita. IMO it's hard to understand what it means when describing energy uses by land masses.

2020 US population 330 million

2020 Africa population 1.3 billion

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by giantg2 »

traveler01 wrote: post #134

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"and their law so restrictive in some cases"

Note that there was no law against this.

"This coming from the country where morons want to own a gun to protect their property and all other bs excuses, it's rather comedic."

This is highly inflammatory and disrespectful language and some might see it as trolling to get us off topic.

"And she received two anonymous notes from neighbors saying they did not want to see her underwear flapping about."

This is what she says happened. There content of the note is not provided, they didn't reach out to the officials, they didn't interview neighbors.

Hanging laundry is normal in some areas of the US too. Although it might not be normal to hang it along the road in your front yard (most have it in the back yard). I'm guessing there are some legal things in Portugal that annoy you, no? That's all that's objectively and factually happened here.

Although I do disagree with the use of anonymous notes and getting the government involved in petty stuff. But for every story of bad neighbors doing this, there are orders of magnitude more unreported stories of neighbors helping each other.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

traveler01 wrote: post #134

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> It still weirds me out that people in USA are such bad neighboors

Don’t mistake single news articles for cultural norms.

Things like these are in the headlines because they’re weird, rare, and noteworthy. I assure you this situation isn’t playing out across the entire US. Stereotyping an entire massive country based on a single news story about a weird dispute between neighbors is just illogical.

This is outrage journalism. The entire purpose of the story is to make you think “that’s outrageous!” and get angry. The journalist who wrote it might have even exaggerated the situation or left out key details to make it as sensational as possible.

Don’t take the bait.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by HideousKojima »

morsch wrote: post #4

For the entirety of my life, we've hung or clothes to dry inside. No dryer. No, they don't smell bad. Yes, even with small kids in the household. No, there is no problem with mold. No, it doesn't take forever, I'd estimate twelve hours most of the year, depending on how fast you spun them (typically 1200+ rpm). Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. In terms of energy efficien…

When I lived in the Czech Republic for two years I didn't have a dryer, had to air dry my clothes. There wasn't a smell issue, but my underwear felt like sandpaper compared to how it felt after going through a dryer.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by maest »

ljf wrote: post #120
lloydatkinson wrote: post #59

I can’t imagine such a freedom limiting law in any European country or here in the UK. Utterly absurd a country that prioritises freedom so much also dictates how people are allowed to dry their laundry. I’m sure if the wind could be taxed they’d not restrict it though…

Try parking a 'work van' (think Ford Transit or similar) outside your new build house on my new estates in the UK. You will swiftly find this is against the terms of ownership and may be liable to a daily fine: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/297654/no-co...

The discussion you posted is not nearly as bad as you make it sound.

It's basically someone realising one of the clauses in their deed is worded perhaps a bit too broadly and are worried if it will be enforced. As a result, they are asking for legal advice on an internet forum and various randos are chipping in with half stories.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by ufmace »

giantg2 wrote: post #145

I think this might be a poor article and there could be more to the story. I don't see them fighting for the right to hang laundry. No action has been taken against the woman, and the man was fined by an association (I don't like associations, but they have tons of restrictions that he voluntarily entered into). If you look at that picture, it seems the woman is hanging her laundry in the front yard. It seems the art…

I agree - it reads like propaganda paid for by this "Project Laundry List" organization, in the pattern of PG's Submarine article.

Since when does this need to be a national issue anyways - "U.S. residents fight..."

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by plandis »

traveler01 wrote: post #134

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> It still weirds me out that people in USA are such bad neighboors (and their law so restrictive in some cases).

I’m sure bad neighbors exist in Portugal.

> For the pic seems to be her home, her property and she can't even hang her clothes to dry.

The picture is literally refuting what you’re claiming? She was able to hang her clothes to dry.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by mlindner »

mattmanser wrote: post #85
morsch wrote: post #4

For the entirety of my life, we've hung or clothes to dry inside. No dryer. No, they don't smell bad. Yes, even with small kids in the household. No, there is no problem with mold. No, it doesn't take forever, I'd estimate twelve hours most of the year, depending on how fast you spun them (typically 1200+ rpm). Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. In terms of energy efficien…

Have you only lived in one climate? One type of house? There are a lot of different buildings and climates where you will have problems hanging laundry indoors. It definitely can cause mould, it definitely is a health risk without paying extra for dehumidifiers. And dehumidifiers are not great for the environment either as well as costing extra. So two good reasons to hang out rather than in. Plus hanging laundry out…

I'd add that dehumidifiers are basically air conditioners they just focus on making sure the water is removed from the air before it leaves the device.
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