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U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by nemo44x »

KevinGlass wrote: post #101
nemo44x wrote: post #17

Although I get her point I think she’s antisocial and being a bad neighbor. Especially by insisting to hang it in the front yard. To live peacefully in a society you have to compromise and you can’t just do as you please. Communities have certain standards and by-laws that should be respected. If you’re compelled then bring it up at the next town meeting and rally support for your cause. What if someone decides they…

If anything, your side is the far my anti-social position. A bunch of busy bodies should not have ANY legal leg to stand on telling people what they can't do just because "it doesn't fit the character of the neighborhood".

You call them busy bodies but I call them neighbors.

You are possibly antisocial?

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Post by ghaff »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #110
ghaff wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Separation does go a long way to preventing disputes about whether a property line is exactly here or 3 feet west. Or whether the garden and lawn upkeep are sufficiently in keeping with the neighborhood standard. I'm guessing my garden might be considered substandard in many suburban settings. I'm mostly pretty sympathetic with people doing whatever is "reasonable" with their properties including drying clothes on a…

The property line thing: not so much. My neighbor hires out the working of his field. The gate into both fields in in common, but it entirely on my property. The contractor doesn't know this, so plants to the center of the gate. Which is 3 or 4 rows of corn on my field. Property lines are problematic everywhere.

Fair enough and certainly access right of ways can be an issue requiring lawyers especially if a property is being sold. That said, issues relating to a tree branch being over some property line tens to be less likely to become an issue when everyone has a fair bit of land.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by mindslight »

ejb999 wrote: post #77

Stupid people who don't read the HOA agreement they signed, and then whine after the fact that some things aren't allowed - I have no sympathy for them (and for the record, would never live anyplace that had an HOA). That said, if its not in the agreement you signed, or you live someplace without an HOA, I support peoples right do hang their laundry out to dry - shouldn't even be a question of being allowed or not.

Similar "voluntary" deed covenants were used to keep neighborhoods white, before they were overridden via state laws. While on a drastically different moral scale, and with some legitimate uses for HOAs, the world would be a better place if most types of their bylaws were similarly nullified.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by deepserket »

nonethewiser wrote: post #102
refurb wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's 6% of residential use . Residential use is 39% of all electrical generation. So driers are 2.3%. That number doesn't surprise me in the least. Residential electrical consumption is trivial if you don't include heating. So having an appliance use 5% of all home electricity seems pretty low?

I'm actually struggling to figure out the remaining 94%. I guess AC is like #1, fridge, tv/computer.... lights ... ?

space cooling: 15.5%

space heating: 15.2%

water heating: 11.6%

refrigeration: 7.1%

lightning: 3.9%

television: 3.7%

computer: 2.4%

other: 40.7%

source: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/use-of-elect...

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by giantg2 »

I think this might be a poor article and there could be more to the story.

I don't see them fighting for the right to hang laundry. No action has been taken against the woman, and the man was fined by an association (I don't like associations, but they have tons of restrictions that he voluntarily entered into).

If you look at that picture, it seems the woman is hanging her laundry in the front yard. It seems the article is all her side of the story without talking to others. There's a very real possibility the neighbors leaving notes may just want her to dry the laundry in the back yard, which is the normal thing to do.

You have every right to do things that are atypical or even antisocial so long as it's not illegal. That doesn't mean other people can't ask you to stop or ridicule you.

Flagging this because it's a click bait headline with substandard content that seems to be misrepresenting the situation.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by s1artibartfast »

refurb wrote: post #54

Drying without a dryer sucks big time. They call appliances "modern conveniences" for a reason. Sure, if you're a hip cool 20-something who does a load of laundry per week air-drying is fine. Try being a household with a couple kids and a baby under 2 and hanging your laundry everyday. It's a waste of time and frankly sucks. I've done it.

I find it to be less time consuming than the machine. I dry most of my clothes on hangers and store them on the same hangers.

The machine was a pain in the ass. I had to check it so the clothes didn't get too hot or go too long. Once done, you have to fold or hang immediately or you get wrinkles.

Now I just put them up and forget about it until later, often the next day when I want something

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by Kiboneu »

throw__away7391 wrote: post #124
bm3719 wrote: post #9

For those thinking about going no-dryer: You can also get small, indoor, foldable clothes drying racks for around $20. I used one of these my entire adult life and pretty much never needed a dryer. Later on I got a house that came with a dryer, but only use it for large items like bed sheets.

I must be doing something wrong, but whenever I dry clothes on a rack they end up with weird wrinkles and feeling a bit "starched".

Give the cloth a good whip or two before hanging it. While drying: constant airflow from a fan (make sure it’s not depositing dirt from the floor / wall / window-ledge to your clothes while it is on).

This breaks the oils/soap that have remaining in the woven fabric, that sometimes harden to encourage a wrinkle pattern. I think…

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by lotsofpulp »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #136
lotsofpulp wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wear ASICS/Uniqlo/Next/Adidas/Express/etc level clothing ($5 to $30 per item) and it lasts many years (5+) even though I use washers and dryers constantly. Cannot imagine additional longevity would be worth all the work of manually doing it.

That’s mostly sport wear brands. You can’t wear that at work in most of the world. I doubt Uniqlo clothes last five years while tumble dried. I hand dry the few t-shirts I own from them and after three years I wouldn’t wear them as anything else than bed wear.

I am wearing a Uniqlo undershirt right now that I bought before 2018. I don’t see any wear and tear.

When I used to wear business casual, I wore Next brand clothing and shirts/trousers looked the same to me even after years of drying and cleaning them. The part that starts showing wear is the fold in the collar, but that only happens a long time after I have gotten my $20 or $30 worth.

I am sure there are some visual differences between top tier clothes and what I wear, but I am okay with it as long as what I have looks clean and presentable.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by Gordonjcp »

ejb999 wrote: post #77

Stupid people who don't read the HOA agreement they signed, and then whine after the fact that some things aren't allowed - I have no sympathy for them (and for the record, would never live anyplace that had an HOA). That said, if its not in the agreement you signed, or you live someplace without an HOA, I support peoples right do hang their laundry out to dry - shouldn't even be a question of being allowed or not.

I don't understand how "HOAs" are legal.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by Gordonjcp »

nemo44x wrote: post #17

Although I get her point I think she’s antisocial and being a bad neighbor. Especially by insisting to hang it in the front yard. To live peacefully in a society you have to compromise and you can’t just do as you please. Communities have certain standards and by-laws that should be respected. If you’re compelled then bring it up at the next town meeting and rally support for your cause. What if someone decides they…

What if they do? I'm always being told that the US is a free country.
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