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U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by KevinGlass »

nemo44x wrote: post #17

Although I get her point I think she’s antisocial and being a bad neighbor. Especially by insisting to hang it in the front yard. To live peacefully in a society you have to compromise and you can’t just do as you please. Communities have certain standards and by-laws that should be respected. If you’re compelled then bring it up at the next town meeting and rally support for your cause. What if someone decides they…

If anything, your side is the far my anti-social position. A bunch of busy bodies should not have ANY legal leg to stand on telling people what they can't do just because "it doesn't fit the character of the neighborhood".

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by nonethewiser »

refurb wrote: post #46
blakesterz wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought for SURE that was going to be one of those made up stats from stupid magazine... nope... seems like that's actually true!? That's WAY higher than I would've ever guessed.

It's 6% of residential use . Residential use is 39% of all electrical generation. So driers are 2.3%. That number doesn't surprise me in the least. Residential electrical consumption is trivial if you don't include heating. So having an appliance use 5% of all home electricity seems pretty low?

I'm actually struggling to figure out the remaining 94%. I guess AC is like #1, fridge, tv/computer.... lights ... ?

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by lotsofpulp »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #6
morsch wrote: post #4

For the entirety of my life, we've hung or clothes to dry inside. No dryer. No, they don't smell bad. Yes, even with small kids in the household. No, there is no problem with mold. No, it doesn't take forever, I'd estimate twelve hours most of the year, depending on how fast you spun them (typically 1200+ rpm). Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. In terms of energy efficien…

Clothes last much longer that way, too. The dryer wears down clothing very quickly with friction.

I wear ASICS/Uniqlo/Next/Adidas/Express/etc level clothing ($5 to $30 per item) and it lasts many years (5+) even though I use washers and dryers constantly.

Cannot imagine additional longevity would be worth all the work of manually doing it.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by hombre_fatal »

morsch wrote: post #4

For the entirety of my life, we've hung or clothes to dry inside. No dryer. No, they don't smell bad. Yes, even with small kids in the household. No, there is no problem with mold. No, it doesn't take forever, I'd estimate twelve hours most of the year, depending on how fast you spun them (typically 1200+ rpm). Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. In terms of energy efficien…

Your message would be much better without all the combative yes/no assumptions that the reader had any one the assumptions you thought you were dispelling.

You can simply delete them.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by SaddledBounding »

nemo44x wrote: post #17

Although I get her point I think she’s antisocial and being a bad neighbor. Especially by insisting to hang it in the front yard. To live peacefully in a society you have to compromise and you can’t just do as you please. Communities have certain standards and by-laws that should be respected. If you’re compelled then bring it up at the next town meeting and rally support for your cause. What if someone decides they…

The vast majority of people in the Hacker News community clearly take offense to your view. Perhaps you should take a moment to consider your own antisocial behavior and quietly not express your opinion. After all, we need to compromise and can't just say as we please.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by bluGill »

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #52
doublesocket wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

London. Cold enough that anything in an old Victorian building won't dry but warm enough that the air remains humid.

I dunno about that - I live in Norway. Most folks dry their clothes inside for most of the year. They take a little longer to dry in the winter, but it really isn't an issue.

London has an interesting climate - despite being fairly far north it doesn't get that cold in winter. It is common there to not have whole house heating. Norway isn't far London, but it is enough worse a climate that pretty much everyone has some form of central heating and keeps their house warm year round.

For this discussion is means that in London the indoor climate is livable, but terrible for trying clothes, while in Norway the indoor climate is nice and drying clothes indoors is helpful for adding humidity.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by mcbits »

nemo44x wrote: post #49
Thlom wrote: post #35

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You examples sounds reasonable enough? I'm a huge proponent for strict building codes etc, but don't really see the problem with turning your front yard into a parking lot or whatever you'd like as long as it doesn't actually cause harm to the neighbours in the form of stealing sunlight or making lots of noise.

I’m grateful to not be your neighbor.

As long as you and your neighbors all had the same understanding (in writing) before buying the property, that's fine.

It's not something that should be foisted on people after they own their property, since "you're free to move your whole life and family somewhere that allows parking on the lawn (or hanging laundry, etc) if you don't like my new rule" is rarely practical or reasonable.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

nemo44x wrote: post #67
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly why I live in the country. No neighbors, who almost by definition exist to constrain my life. By making up laughable things like "hurts everyone's eyes to have to see a car parked on the front lawn".

Great, please do stay away from the rest of us. You’re happy being alone and we’re happy to not have to be around you. Everyone wins here.

True about the first part. You actually have no idea what it's like being around me. So I have one up on the rest of you there.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by resoluteteeth »

ejb999 wrote: post #77

Stupid people who don't read the HOA agreement they signed, and then whine after the fact that some things aren't allowed - I have no sympathy for them (and for the record, would never live anyplace that had an HOA). That said, if its not in the agreement you signed, or you live someplace without an HOA, I support peoples right do hang their laundry out to dry - shouldn't even be a question of being allowed or not.

Stupid people like the first person mentioned in the article, who apparently doesn't live in an HOA and was asked by a town official to stop hanging laundry?

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

ghaff wrote: post #88
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly why I live in the country. No neighbors, who almost by definition exist to constrain my life. By making up laughable things like "hurts everyone's eyes to have to see a car parked on the front lawn".

Separation does go a long way to preventing disputes about whether a property line is exactly here or 3 feet west. Or whether the garden and lawn upkeep are sufficiently in keeping with the neighborhood standard. I'm guessing my garden might be considered substandard in many suburban settings. I'm mostly pretty sympathetic with people doing whatever is "reasonable" with their properties including drying clothes on a…

The property line thing: not so much. My neighbor hires out the working of his field. The gate into both fields in in common, but it entirely on my property.

The contractor doesn't know this, so plants to the center of the gate. Which is 3 or 4 rows of corn on my field.

Property lines are problematic everywhere.

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