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Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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I do this now.

I was doing client work, and to be frank, got tired of working from home and dealing with low-grade clients all day. So instead of worrying about finding better clients, I took a day job to support myself and my family (wife and kids) while I worked on side projects with my co-founder.

To date, we've built a fun iOS game, Santa Strike, a crowdfunding plugin for WordPress, IgnitionDeck, and a few yet to be launched iOS apps, among other simple software utilities like Iconswitch.me and GameDesignTemplate.com

I drive to and from work an hour a day, which kills me, but we're very close to being profitable enough so I can quit my day job.

We're not zillionaires yet, but I do think it's possible to do what you're asking. However, it's very very difficult, especially when you have a spouse and/or kids.

I work on my stuff from 7-8 am, drive to work, try to fend off the thought of being an unproductive employee so I don't get fired (I'm actually the only developer they have, and I'm in a very good position because my predecessors set the bar so very low), but do spend some time at work handling side-project stuff, get home at 6:30, hang out, work more, go to bed, rinse, repeat.

My wife is stressed because my mind is elsewhere, but she understands. We spend time on the weekends going out and doing family stuff, but not as much as we'd like.

When we ship new versions of software, I field customer inquiries and complaints on the go, which isn't ideal, but is what it is.

In other words, I have very little personal time, it's very stressful for the entire family, and it's a lot of hard work over a long period of time. It's not for the faint of heart.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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I find I often have a late(r) Friday due to some volunteering. Nice to see I'm not the only one enjoying the mornings, even though I've historically been a night owl.

Funny thing is, I'm a night owl myself. But I was tired of using all my more productive time for my employer, and all my tired nights for myself ;)

Thats exactly what I found too, total night owl too.

The people I work for don't always want/need my highest creativity, but my reliable attention to detail and high quality work. It's nice to innovate in the mornings for my own stuff.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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I built Femtoo.com in my 'spare' time. It was built whilst working at a day job over the course of a year or so. It brings in a small amount of money each month and it pretty much requires no maintenance. However I would not say that it is profitable (yet), there is a fair way to go before it brings in enough money to have justified the time. I would spend more time implementing new features if I thought it would res…

Some off the cuff feedback: I wouldn't spend time on features, spend it on cleaning up the design. * Use twitter bootstrap or some other framework to make the site look more professional. * Why are the prices in weird denominations? $1.60 per month? Just make it $25/year. * Don't show the social sharing button (G+) until you have a few hundred shares already * Why is the video so small? Have screenshots on the homepa…

thanks so much for the great feedback! I'll make the quick changes ASAP and start reworking the UI - again, thanks so much!

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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Regarding your SO, I agree that it's important to have someone that understands how you make money and what's required to build a business. The question I have is, how much more beneficial was it to have your SO involved at some meaningful level? Sales is an interesting spot because it makes a case for itself to justify the time required. Are there any pros / cons of involving your SO directly and at the core of your…

Several of my smaller suppliers have their SO do the books for the business. It's very common. It's really common to have a family member do bookkeeping, just because of the trust level involved. (My sister does my books.) My SO has done some programming for my company; some of it has been really great, some of it not. (She is generally way more competent than me or anyone else I can afford, but her background is emb…

Cool. The trust factor makes sense. So does being the oldest and being able to say yes or no.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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Hey, didn't know you were on here! I run quietspeculation.com. Incredible that you're doing all that. Can't wait to get my mat design to you.

Yep, can't get enough. I am waiting on you man! I want to hook you up!

I should stop being an anal-retentive entrepreneur and just hire a graphic designer. Am considering commissioning custom art from an MTG artist (rk post maybe?)

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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Because you aren't contributing to the thread, just complaining.

It looks like two options: you have read only first sentence of my comment or I am not clear enough. I have tried to do two things: 1) I have encouraged question's author to do that anyway even if there will be no profit because that has indirect positive effect; 2) I have tried to point out that such question is wrong to ask and there is very simple reason for that. It will attract only people who have succeeded in…

1. You asked, I answered. I did/can not up vote or down vote your post as a result.

2. The OP asked a question, and you questioned why they should ask. More importantly, you merely pointed out that yes, people have, and have not been successful at it.

3. If you intended for something else, you weren't clear. Mostly because you didn't say anything. What you did say didn't amount to something that offered anything constructive, hence the down votes.

> For every successful startup there are 10 unsuccessful (unprofitable) and if stating the reality is complaining then well OK - all who downvoted me has right to live in their rosy dream illusion world where they get rich just by reading HN.

But see, you didn't say that. You didn't come close to saying that. You might think you did, but I assure you, you didn't come close. Your comment wasn't insightful or intelligent. You wanted to know why you got down voted, I told you. Don't try and now pass this off by labelling those who down voted you.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like two options: you have read only first sentence of my comment or I am not clear enough. I have tried to do two things: 1) I have encouraged question's author to do that anyway even if there will be no profit because that has indirect positive effect; 2) I have tried to point out that such question is wrong to ask and there is very simple reason for that. It will attract only people who have succeeded in…

1. You asked, I answered. I did/can not up vote or down vote your post as a result. 2. The OP asked a question, and you questioned why they should ask. More importantly, you merely pointed out that yes, people have, and have not been successful at it. 3. If you intended for something else, you weren't clear. Mostly because you didn't say anything. What you did say didn't amount to something that offered anything cons…

Thank you for your answer ;-)
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