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Why are interests rates as a money sink preferable to the more direct approach of simply sinking money out of supply via tax? They seem to amount to the same thing at the end of the day - siphoning dollars out.
This way, you'd only be vacuuming dollars held by US entities (citizens, companies), while USD is a global currency held by everyone in the world. This policy would greatly benefit non-US entities, at the cost of US entities.
Inflation is at a 40 year high. What can history teach us?
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I have to wonder when imaginary "first principles" speculation for crypto will give way to evaluating it on its actual track record.
I mean, it's extremely young in the history of the existence of money. I don't think you can say anything meaningful about its track record as of yet.
If you want to make the case that cryptocurrencies deserve to be judged by something other than the absolute clusterfuck they have been so far, you have to make some sort of argument, preferably one with significant data. Otherwise, I think we're in the territory of "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence".
Re: Inflation is at a 40 year high. What can history teach us?
#543Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are interests rates as a money sink preferable to the more direct approach of simply sinking money out of supply via tax? They seem to amount to the same thing at the end of the day - siphoning dollars out.
This way, you'd only be vacuuming dollars held by US entities (citizens, companies), while USD is a global currency held by everyone in the world. This policy would greatly benefit non-US entities, at the cost of US entities.
Re: Inflation is at a 40 year high. What can history teach us?
#544Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are interests rates as a money sink preferable to the more direct approach of simply sinking money out of supply via tax? They seem to amount to the same thing at the end of the day - siphoning dollars out.
That is also a valid approach but I'm not sure it is more direct. Tax policy is generally only set once a year and only affects tax payers. Interest rates can be tweaked more frequently and (I think) directly impact a larger subset of economic players. That and the Fed doesn't determine tax rates.
I don't follow the second part though: pretty much everybody pays a significant amount of taxes, if only the likes of sales tax. Far fewer (though of course still many) players have substantial interest income or expenses.
Re: Inflation is at a 40 year high. What can history teach us?
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#546Re: Inflation is at a 40 year high. What can history teach us?
#547Earlier quoted context omitted.
CPI has asset components, like housing. Central banks have one universal lever, and they use it. (This is by design, so it can be mostly independent.) The responsibility is on the fiscal side to spend it on shit that actually matters. Sending people money without means testing is dumb, but politics in this age is dumb. Unfortunately harping half-truths about central banking won't help with the situation :/ Your comme…
Neglecting issues due to the war in Ukraine, a lot of the “supply side issues” are not totally isolated from central bank policy, QE, and stimulus. The use of QE and stimulus increased demand, while simultaneously, government policy decreased supply. Now, supply is (mostly) recovered, but demand still remains elevated. Supply can’t keep up, because its target is too high. This is why we see talk from the Federal Rese…
http://blog.jparsons.net/2011/03/shadow-stats-debunked-part-...
https://www.thestreet.com/economonitor/emerging-markets/deco...
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2008/08/art1full.pdf
> If the price of the S&P 500 for instance is higher due to an asset bubble, it decreases my ability to purchase shares of it.
BLS says that the CPI doesn't track savings, just day-to-day living expenses. And that's okay, people want these indices to do everything. (And the Fed is not even using the CPI, they are using the PCE ... and there's a bunch more https://www.bea.gov/resources/learning-center/quick-guide-so... And the PCE is considered too broad, because it has inputs from businesses, nonprofits, etc. But of course it's not like business costs are irrelevant to the economy...)
That said, I think the biggest problem is that these general indices are used for things like welfare calculations, but they already don't represent the average welfare recipient. So adding equity would make it even less useful for that. (Which is mostly just an argument for having more indices, each representing a large chunk of society. But of course the cynic in me says that we already have one for the important people, the SP500, and poor people only matter when they are undecided voters in swing states.)
> Now, supply is (mostly) recovered, but demand still remains elevated.
Mostly, though basic input like oil is still not at the early 2020 levels. Aaand OPEC cut production just yesterday.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/world_crude_oil_production (5Y chart)
> we are really looking at an “imbalance between supply and demand” due in part to all of economic, social, and political factors.
Yep. And every think tank from the political zoo has their own critique of the actions of the Fed, but monetary policy is simply a blunt tool, and all of the structural problems are ... surprise surprise ... structural conflicts between big powerblocks. (One common laughing stock is the Jones Act. US shipbuilding is basically non-existent, and what's left is useless for "national security" purposes anyway. But it's somehow completely entrenched. Similarly other protectionist policies that serve special interests serve exactly one purpose to enrich members of those special interest groups. It's bad for consumers, it's bad for the economy, it's bad for labor markets, etc.)
All in all there's an argument in this about how the US fucked up the transition during globalization. (The big one is using market access as a carrot in WTO, but then not enforcing reciprocity with China and others. And the lack of any real and effective management of wage deflation in the affected areas, like the rust belt, goes without saying.)
Re: Inflation is at a 40 year high. What can history teach us?
#548A good working definition of inflation is a general increase in prices and a fall in the purchasing value of money. There will generally be inflation when there are fewer goods to purchase or when the money supply increases. History teaches us that the government, often through good intentions, decreases the supply of available goods. There are many reasons this happens. Recently, people were told to stay at home, an…
"There will generally be inflation when there are fewer goods to purchase or when the money supply increases." But these seem like entirely different problems. If there's too much money, then you should reduce the money supply by increasing interest rates, stoking job fears, etc. If there are not enough goods, and the market isn't responding by producing more, you can't solve it by making sure people have less money.…
Re: Inflation is at a 40 year high. What can history teach us?
#549Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There's two causes for inflation I think everybody agrees, too little supply and too much demand. Price increases aren't always inflation. As the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland published, "Strictly speaking, inflation refers only to a drop in the purchasing power of money that results when a central bank creates more money than its public wants to hold. Inflation manifests itself as a rise in all prices and wage…
But isn't inflation measured by some kind of average price index? If the consumer-price-index goes up we call it inflation whether it's caused by " central bank creating more money than its public wants to hold." or not? Is it possible to measure "how much money public will want to hold"?
CPI (Consumer Price Index) is often used to measure inflation, but is an imperfect measure. First, it only measures the prices of household consumption, not wages, business expenses, etc. Second, as this BLS article says: "The CPI has been criticized for having both an upward bias (overstating inflation) and a downward bias (understating inflation). Much of the criticism asserting an upward bias comes from the academic community. In 1995, Congress, aware of such criticism, commissioned a group of academic economists, led by Michael Boskin, to study and report on the CPI. The resulting study, titled "Toward A More Accurate Measure Of The Cost Of Living" (but often referred to as the Boskin Report), summarized the viewpoint that the CPI was upwardly biased. The report asserted that the CPI overstated inflation because of three main reasons: it omitted consumer substitution, did not fully account for quality change, and failed to properly reflect the addition of new goods. BLS has introduced some methodological changes since the report came out in 1996. Although these changes were intended to make the CPI more accurate, some think that they have introduced a downward bias."
https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-1/consumer-price-index-d...
> Is it possible to measure "how much money public will want to hold"?
No, not directly. We can only measure proxies, then debate how useful the proxies are.
The more holistic a metric is, the better a gauge of inflation it is. To the extent it measures relative price changes, rather than total-market price changes (including the price of labor), it may incorporate economic effects other than inflation. One flaw of the CPI for serving as a complete measure of inflation is right there in the name: Consumer Price.
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> The end result? Those with the least money (the poor, and those on fixed incomes) are totally hosed. If you can't afford rent at $800, you surely can't afford it at $1400. More handouts only make the problem worse. That's absurd; while a one-off is nowhere near as good as a basic income, a flat "handout" benefits the poor for obvious reasons (at the expense of the rich; there's no free lunch). > The Fed's response…
How do you expect fiscal responsibility in an economic system where money both embodies purchasing power which is a stock and liquidity which is a flow? Liquidity is a costly service provided by the public, every open shop and business provides liquidity and operating a business even with no customers costs money. This means anyone holding onto money can force others to spend money on providing expensive liquidity wh…