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Post by echelon »

soogwoog wrote: post #159
jhugo wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh. This is the first time I read this quote, but it resonates so well. Does anyone else program this way? I usually sit for a while thinking about the problem, write the program mentally, try out edge cases, sometimes rework the program a few times, then once I feel it's correct I type out all the code, with that phase taking much less time than the "mental work". I'd estimate my usual process is about 90% thought,…

Takes way too much RAM for my ADHD brain. If I work like that, solid concepts slip out of my grasp and I have to work them out all over again. Without writing things down, I miss obvious and important problems. Very envious of people who can maintain a large system in their head.

ADHD forces depth first search ("hyper focus") with a time penalty to avoid sinking too much into one effort. It's just a different search algorithm that will explore the problem landscape differently.

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Post by ekianjo »

brador wrote: post #116
ekianjo wrote: post #92

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you cant talk about the potential causes in here.

It was on the announcement Twitter linked, it said heart attack.

Heart attacks at 47 are rather rare. There is probably some underlying cause but it cannot be discussed here.

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Post by extragood »

jhugo wrote: post #43
thevagrant wrote: post #28

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It reminds me of Nikola Tesla, "Before I put a sketch on paper, the whole idea is worked out mentally. In my mind I change the construction, make improvements, and even operate the device. Without ever having drawn a sketch I can give the measurements of all parts to workmen, and when completed all these parts will fit, just as certainly as though I had made the actual drawings. It is immaterial to me whether I run m…

Huh. This is the first time I read this quote, but it resonates so well. Does anyone else program this way? I usually sit for a while thinking about the problem, write the program mentally, try out edge cases, sometimes rework the program a few times, then once I feel it's correct I type out all the code, with that phase taking much less time than the "mental work". I'd estimate my usual process is about 90% thought,…

Kinda along those lines. What works best for me is to start with high level comments in plain English after thinking about what I'm trying to achieve for a bit. Then I make a skeleton of all the methods and classes that that will require. Then I'll comment each method (if not trivial) in plain English and only then actually begin development. The development phase seems to go by pretty quickly that way.

And as another plus, that makes my code very readable for others. I leave the comments in.

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Post by carabiner »

Entinel wrote: post #51

I know several people that have died or almost died from Widowmaker heart attacks. Seeing a cardiologist and cardio in general is one of those things that a lot of men ignore because they feel healthy but it cannot be stressed enough, once you hit 30/40s, find a good cardiologist especially if you have a history of heart attacks in your family.

One thing I've heard is that under 40, people died from trauma (car crash) or suicide. After 40, the body really starts breaking down and people die from anything. Cancer, heart problems, lots of stuff out of the blue much without prior causes like smoking.

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Post by wahern »

novok wrote: post #170
Entinel wrote: post #51

I know several people that have died or almost died from Widowmaker heart attacks. Seeing a cardiologist and cardio in general is one of those things that a lot of men ignore because they feel healthy but it cannot be stressed enough, once you hit 30/40s, find a good cardiologist especially if you have a history of heart attacks in your family.

I don't have a history of heart attacks, and lot of doctors seem to discount this form of early checking. What do you do when your bloodwork is good?

> What do you do when your bloodwork is good?

Yearly blood panels provide time series data against which it might be easier to spot changes even if all metrics are in the "healthy" zone.

At Kaiser, which usually has its own lab in every facility, yearly blood panels are completely routine. As an HMO Kaiser has every incentive to minimize costs, and they don't make any such practices routine unless and until they've been demonstrated to provide clear benefit across their patient population. (They also regularly run all sorts of trials--they're vertically integrated from the research lab on up.)

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Post by agentgumshoe »

valarauko wrote: post #132
croes wrote: post #118

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Sure? How do you find a controll group of people vaccinated but without corona virus infection? The virus is more likely the cause if there really is a spike in heart attack cases because pre vaccine studies already showed higher heart disease rates because of an infection.

Plus, the cardiac involvements post vaccinations have almost all been in young men - adolescents mostly, with symptoms within days. Kim was not an adolescent, so it seems unreasonable to presume vaccination as the cause.

Why does it seem unreasonable when it is a known side-effect (regardless how rare)? Is it more reasonable to assume mystery of the universe? Like, there's no better candidate, but we're more comfortable with 'random thing' than 'maybe we should investigate if the vaccine could have been involved' (i.e. vaccinated recently, previous reactions, etc).

It's strange to see so many people going out of their way to justify not investigating something because, god forbid, supporting doing so might make you a perceived nutter or something.

It's probably completely unrelated, but it's not something you just don't check because culture war.

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Post by sokoloff »

Dave3of5 wrote: post #154
watwut wrote: post #143

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You are overestimating how often heart attacks in the office happen.

Nope ...

How many same-office-colleague-years do you think you’ve had in your career? How many fatal heart attacks in the five across all those? For me, it’s “tens of thousands” and “zero”.

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Post by aplummer »

drcross wrote: post #158
aplummer wrote: post #157

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Are you referring to the vaccines administered to several billion people, that are proven to be safe and effective?

Keep repeating the mantra and it makes it true.

Once you publish your peer reviewed paper I look forward to retracting my comment as you are globally lauded.

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Post by croes »

agentgumshoe wrote: post #177
valarauko wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plus, the cardiac involvements post vaccinations have almost all been in young men - adolescents mostly, with symptoms within days. Kim was not an adolescent, so it seems unreasonable to presume vaccination as the cause.

Why does it seem unreasonable when it is a known side-effect (regardless how rare)? Is it more reasonable to assume mystery of the universe? Like, there's no better candidate, but we're more comfortable with 'random thing' than 'maybe we should investigate if the vaccine could have been involved' (i.e. vaccinated recently, previous reactions, etc). It's strange to see so many people going out of their way to justify…

>Like, there's no better candidate

There is a better candidate. The corona virus has the same known side effect and it's more often and more severe.

A pre vaccine study already showed that an corona virus infection increases the risk of heart failures even after more than a year after infection.

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