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Can you explain how this is a spy tool and how Youtube, Instagram, Facebook, etc. are not? I haven't really used TikTok. How does it collect data beyond the videos I've watched?
One is controlled by an authoritarian government, the others are private (publicly traded) corporations in a democratic country.
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One is controlled by an authoritarian government, the others are private (publicly traded) corporations in a democratic country.
as someone living outside the US I can tell you that to us you're all the same.
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Can you explain how this is a spy tool and how Youtube, Instagram, Facebook, etc. are not? I haven't really used TikTok. How does it collect data beyond the videos I've watched?
One is controlled by an authoritarian government, the others are private (publicly traded) corporations in a democratic country.
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I think all of these apps behave deplorably. But these kinds of comments try to imply that TikTok is uniquely dangerous when it's just more of the same. The solutions offered also often target TikTok specifically - like banning TikTok in the US, or placing some kind of restrictions on how TikTok can operate. Why is the solution not to make broad data collection illegal? Edit: > So should no one speak out against conc…
Based on published information, Tiktok is behaving significantly worse than any other major player in this market. Just one example: There are no reports of Meta (etc) logging my keystrokes and data OUTSIDE of what I enter into the app/website. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33049774
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No one said they aren't . Yet there's always someone in any given thread about a Chinese app jumping to its defense saying "but Silicon Valley." So should no one speak out against concentration camps, cultural genocide, and mass sterilization in China today because the same things have happened historically in the United States? China being an adversary should have nothing to do with it? If we can't point out such a…
I don't like companies which business model is spying on people , regardless who their master is. To answer your question(if you really want an answer) , is, hypocrisy, many people have a problem with Alice pointing out that Bob did X thing, when Alice in the first place have also done said X thing. Not justifying anything, or anyone whatsoever, just telling raven how some people might think.
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One is controlled by an authoritarian government, the others are private (publicly traded) corporations in a democratic country.
But they took part in illegal surveillance programmes in the past.
Exactly. What's illegal here is perfectly fine in China. Let's not equate the two.
US government may get data from US companies but at least it takes a warrant. Chinese government straight up owns the servers.
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I think all of these apps behave deplorably. But these kinds of comments try to imply that TikTok is uniquely dangerous when it's just more of the same. The solutions offered also often target TikTok specifically - like banning TikTok in the US, or placing some kind of restrictions on how TikTok can operate. Why is the solution not to make broad data collection illegal? Edit: > So should no one speak out against conc…
Based on published information, Tiktok is behaving significantly worse than any other major player in this market. Just one example: There are no reports of Meta (etc) logging my keystrokes and data OUTSIDE of what I enter into the app/website. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33049774