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The life-changing effects of hallucinations

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Re: The life-changing effects of hallucinations

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I’ve had two hallucinagenic experiences (acid and 2c-I) and I never got any life changing experiences. Is it like hypnosis where you have to believe in it to have it work? I know someone cured of an addiction from her hypnosis so I know these things happen.

I would say I absolutely had hallucinations and the experiences were powerful and long lasting, but I’m still aware it’s a trip.

Re: The life-changing effects of hallucinations

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post #31

I’ve had two hallucinagenic experiences (acid and 2c-I) and I never got any life changing experiences. Is it like hypnosis where you have to believe in it to have it work? I know someone cured of an addiction from her hypnosis so I know these things happen. I would say I absolutely had hallucinations and the experiences were powerful and long lasting, but I’m still aware it’s a trip.

out of curiosity, how old were you?

becuase I've been wondering recently what would have happened if I only tried hallucinogenics for the first time now that my brain is much older?

Re: The life-changing effects of hallucinations

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post #31

I’ve had two hallucinagenic experiences (acid and 2c-I) and I never got any life changing experiences. Is it like hypnosis where you have to believe in it to have it work? I know someone cured of an addiction from her hypnosis so I know these things happen. I would say I absolutely had hallucinations and the experiences were powerful and long lasting, but I’m still aware it’s a trip.

out of curiosity, how old were you? becuase I've been wondering recently what would have happened if I only tried hallucinogenics for the first time now that my brain is much older?

I was around 25 for both. Is that considered "late/older"?

That's an interesting idea.

Re: The life-changing effects of hallucinations

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If you have Aphantasia, you probably won’t visualize on hallucinogens.

Are you saying this because you have aphantasia and this is your personal experience?

When you say 'you probably won’t visualize' do you mean completely internal/mental visualisations or are you including all sorts of hallucinogenic visualisations typically reported?

(I'm asking these because I have aphantasia and have been psychedelic/hallucination-curious, but still haven't given anything of the sort a try. I do engage with mystical practices, though, have had 'mystical visions' (which had actual no visual component!), and have been curious how psychedelics might compare.)

Re: The life-changing effects of hallucinations

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Very interesting article, but I thought they should have at least mentioned the central role of the serotonin receptor 5HT-2A in psychedelic drug activity in the brain:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-HT2A_receptor

This receptor also seems involved in synesthesia, a psychedelic-like condition thought to involve a cross-wiring of visual and auditory brain pathways that result in 'seeing sounds' and 'hearing colors'. Here's a bit of research on that:

> "Synesthesia has been reported with LSD5 as accompaniment to other visual hallucinations. These sound-induced visual perceptions and the visual hallucinations can be well formed and complex. The cause of synesthesia is thought to be chemical deafferentation of lateral geniculate body, which will deprive the occipital cortex from visual stimuli. LSD is known to selectively activate serotonin 2A receptor. Brang and Ramachandran19 hypothesized that serotonin 2A receptors are the “synesthesia receptor”. Auditory visual synesthesia also has been reported with other serotonin 2A agonists including mescaline and ayahuasca. Ayahuasca contains serotonergic psychledic N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) and beta-carboline, a monoamine oxidase inhibitor. DMT is a partial agonist of serotonin 2A receptors and beta-carboline inhibits the visceral metabolism of DMT, increasing its systemic levels."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3218766/

Incidentally, static output from old analog CRT televisions tuned to dead channels is a kind of ideal 'blank sheet' for producing hallucinations. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many good simulations of this once-common phenomena (the YT videos of TV static seem to suffer from replication issues of various sorts and aren't that realistic). Similar natural effects might be obtained by looking at fog and clouds, waves breaking on a beach, wind blowing over a field of grass, etc.

I'd argue that one of the great potential benefits of psychedelics is that they encourage us to look closely at the world around us.

Re: The life-changing effects of hallucinations

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I can't speak for myself, but I can offer a piece of anecdata.

I had this buddy, who, at the time we became friends, was writing stuff in assembler that I had trouble putting in pascal. To my kid mind, he was an absolute genius. Eventually, he told was he was talking acid and disclosed how he could tell his mind was not as sharp as it used to be as a result.

I have no knowledge if it was laced with anything or he simply had one trip too many, but it was definitely life changing. I was trying to reach out recently ( you know.. the whole nostalgia thing to see where everyone is these days ).

I will admit that made me hesitate on trying it myself on my own. If I were to do it now, the one thing I would make sure of is that there someone there to watch over me.

Re: The life-changing effects of hallucinations

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post #31

I’ve had two hallucinagenic experiences (acid and 2c-I) and I never got any life changing experiences. Is it like hypnosis where you have to believe in it to have it work? I know someone cured of an addiction from her hypnosis so I know these things happen. I would say I absolutely had hallucinations and the experiences were powerful and long lasting, but I’m still aware it’s a trip.

Yeah I've never understood why people say that hallucinations are real, and even "more real" and the "actual reality". The very definition of a hallucination is that it's not real, it's false. What am I missing here?

Re: The life-changing effects of hallucinations

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post #31

I’ve had two hallucinagenic experiences (acid and 2c-I) and I never got any life changing experiences. Is it like hypnosis where you have to believe in it to have it work? I know someone cured of an addiction from her hypnosis so I know these things happen. I would say I absolutely had hallucinations and the experiences were powerful and long lasting, but I’m still aware it’s a trip.

Dosage matters a lot. 100-200μg of LSD doesn't do much for me, but 400-500μg is just right for a profound experience. YMMV.

Re: The life-changing effects of hallucinations

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I'm going through John Vervaeke's "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis" on youtube and it's fascinating. One thing he means to answer is: why do we have these altered consciousness experiences where we come back from it, and unlike most altered experiences (being drunk; dreaming), we say THAT was more real than THIS? And then profoundly change our lives in a positive way? Especially since the actual contents of the alt…

And what are those actual life changing amazing positive changes that happen? Sounds just like weed smokers who convince you they have all these amazing ideas which they somehow can never write down and keep for later. Maybe it's just the drug that makes you feel like something pretty mundane is life changing because you have just traumatised your brain

Re: The life-changing effects of hallucinations

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The life-changing effect of LSD for me was a profound shift in the clarity of my thinking, like gaining a new superpower (compared to my prior, foggy brain) overnight. I'll always be thankful for that first trip.

I am curious what the outcome was. Any direction your life took aftewards?
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