American tourist smashes two sculptures in the Vatican • Hacker News Board

Re: American tourist smashes two sculptures in the Vatican

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Post by ASalazarMX » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 5:36 PM UTC

ravenstine wrote: post #6

Although this is terrible, for those of you who aren't actually going to read the article: > "The 2 busts have been damaged but not particularly badly. One lost part of a nose and an ear, the head of the other came off the pedestal." So fortunately the busts were not obliterated into a bunch of pieces like the image I had in my head when I read the word "smashed".

The virtual tour (copied from the Boing Boing coverage) shows how much more damage the tourist could have done. Two busts damaged was relatively cheap.

https://www.museivaticani.va/content/museivaticani/en/collez...

Re: American tourist smashes two sculptures in the Vatican

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Post by lostlogin » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 5:38 PM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #18

According to other reports, he was an Egyptian living in America. His citizenship status wasn't reported. Not sure it matters... but it does complicate the usual "Americans behaving badly abroad" narrative.

The list of other nationalities doing mingles things does too.

Re: American tourist smashes two sculptures in the Vatican

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Post by ASalazarMX » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 5:40 PM UTC

pfortuny wrote: post #19

tmpz22 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without knowing what the physical space looks like I'd rather we just not arrange valuable artwork like sculptures where tourists can easily damage or even touch them. People are dumb, tourists are a even dumber subset of people, you're asking for it if you don't properly secure the artwork. Throwing these people in prison won't make tourists smarter it'll just put them in prison at the public's expense. And before s…

It looks like they were lesser works, not worth the trouble (in the way you mean). It was not a bust of Cesar or something like that.

Virtual tour of the place, according to Boing Boing. It has a vibe of "we have way too many marble statues, just put them somewhere".

https://www.museivaticani.va/content/museivaticani/en/collez...

Re: American tourist smashes two sculptures in the Vatican

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Post by ASalazarMX » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 5:42 PM UTC

danielfoster wrote: post #15

Why does the nationality of the tourist matter?

Don't worry, some angry American flagged this already.

Re: American tourist smashes two sculptures in the Vatican

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Post by mblatt1 » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 5:43 PM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #18

According to other reports, he was an Egyptian living in America. His citizenship status wasn't reported. Not sure it matters... but it does complicate the usual "Americans behaving badly abroad" narrative.

No post body was provided.

Re: American tourist smashes two sculptures in the Vatican

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Post by pacetherace » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 5:45 PM UTC

danielfoster wrote: post #15

Why does the nationality of the tourist matter?

It does because there have been instances where some countries are fed up of tourists from specific countries.

This is primarily due to cultural differences and presumptions that absence of law-enforcement(e.g. if there is no security guard at a gate, it is ok to go inside) means it is legal to do something stupid.

Re: American tourist smashes two sculptures in the Vatican

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Post by theandrewbailey » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 5:45 PM UTC

justin66 wrote: post #16

Arrath wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Followed with a childish tantrum by throwing one sculpture to the floor. Real nice. Its actions like this that result in the rest of us only being able to view artifacts like these from afar, behind plexiglass. What a shame.

> Its actions like this that result in the rest of us only being able to view artifacts like these from afar, behind plexiglass. That will not happen.

You're right. We won't be able to view them at all.

Re: American tourist smashes two sculptures in the Vatican

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Post by spoils19 » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 5:46 PM UTC

SllX wrote: post #11

not-my-account wrote: post #8

What are repercussions for this act? I.e. what will the tourist be charged with? Simple vandalism seems way too lenient.

Well at the very least he’s going to Hell.

Unlikely - God is able to forgive any sin, and I doubt this would be considered a sin anyway.

Re: American tourist smashes two sculptures in the Vatican

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Post by jleyank » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 5:46 PM UTC

SllX wrote: post #11

not-my-account wrote: post #8

What are repercussions for this act? I.e. what will the tourist be charged with? Simple vandalism seems way too lenient.

Well at the very least he’s going to Hell.

I’ve played D&D. At that level, a Bless said backwards is a lot of HP. And yeah, he’s going to Hell.

Re: American tourist smashes two sculptures in the Vatican

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Post by quantified » Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 7:18 PM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #18

According to other reports, he was an Egyptian living in America. His citizenship status wasn't reported. Not sure it matters... but it does complicate the usual "Americans behaving badly abroad" narrative.

Citation please?