It seems that the only benefit of moving the proprietary driver into firmware in the near term is to reduce friction for distros. Canonical or RedHat may be able to provide better out of the best experience to their customers. Doesn't change things too much otherwise. Will be a while before anything is mainlined. Increasingly, open source for hardware just means shoving things into firmware. Holds true for CPUs, GPUs…
NVIDIA and nouveau
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#22Instead, I have to use https://github.com/MeowIce/nvidia-legacy to patch and install the proprietary drivers.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I recently upgraded from a laptop that also had Kepler + i7 Haswell iGPU, to a laptop with an 11th gen Intel iGPU, and the graphics performance of the new laptop is way better than the old one, even compared to running the proprietary NVidia drivers on the old laptop. I'd definitely recommend upgrading.
thanks! honestly all i use this for is personal web browsing, minecraft, stardew, and a bit of brutal doom to blow off some steam :). for me its perfect and i got it maxed out at 32GB of ram and the quad core i7. one day i'll upgrade, maybe when all the kids are in public school and my wife has graduated law school. right now i'm paying a pre school and a law school tuition on a single income (as well as mortgage etc…
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#24We have been asked a few times not to post SubscriberLinks to hackernews, lwn submissions tend to make their way into the public anyway, with a 2 week delay for non-subscribers. Continuing to post these articles has some potential for financial harm to the project and may prevent such articles being written in future.
On the contrary, "we" have been repeatedly told by Jonathan Corbet, that posting to HN is perfectly fine. Stop making things up and creating Internet drama.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31852477
sounds like he is fine with it as long as it comes with subscriptions, which makes sense. Maybe my suggestion should have been to subscribe and I wouldn't have been flagged. :)
EDIT: can I please get an explanation of what I've done wrong? Is it too meta?
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#25It seems that the only benefit of moving the proprietary driver into firmware in the near term is to reduce friction for distros. Canonical or RedHat may be able to provide better out of the best experience to their customers. Doesn't change things too much otherwise. Will be a while before anything is mainlined. Increasingly, open source for hardware just means shoving things into firmware. Holds true for CPUs, GPUs…
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#26I really wish nouveau were in a better state. I have a positively ancient laptop with a 8600M nvidia chipset that just will not reliably operate with the nouveau driver. Instead, I have to use https://github.com/MeowIce/nvidia-legacy to patch and install the proprietary drivers.
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#27>> GPU may allow creating a cross-platform compute stack That was the intention of OpenCL.
Re: NVIDIA and nouveau
#28It seems that the only benefit of moving the proprietary driver into firmware in the near term is to reduce friction for distros. Canonical or RedHat may be able to provide better out of the best experience to their customers. Doesn't change things too much otherwise. Will be a while before anything is mainlined. Increasingly, open source for hardware just means shoving things into firmware. Holds true for CPUs, GPUs…
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the contrary, "we" have been repeatedly told by Jonathan Corbet, that posting to HN is perfectly fine. Stop making things up and creating Internet drama.
> It's nice to see LWN on HN for the second time in one day, but please remember: it is only LWN subscribers that make this kind of writing possible. If you are enjoying it, please consider becoming a subscriber yourself — or, even better, getting your employer to subscribe. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31852477 sounds like he is fine with it as long as it comes with subscriptions, which makes sense. Maybe my…
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#30It seems that the only benefit of moving the proprietary driver into firmware in the near term is to reduce friction for distros. Canonical or RedHat may be able to provide better out of the best experience to their customers. Doesn't change things too much otherwise. Will be a while before anything is mainlined. Increasingly, open source for hardware just means shoving things into firmware. Holds true for CPUs, GPUs…
Valve as well.
The nicest, best thing is that the suspend button just works flawlessly. I can imagine the only reason that's the case is because Valve had control of the kernel drivers and firmware. Maybe they had to sign NDA agreements with their vendors to do that work. If their changes trickle down into the vendors' firmware blobs for consumer facing hardware, they'll have compensated a bit for the technical debt of other companies, made the world a bit better.