Oh boy. Crowdsourced facts. More equals better than, right?! Ridiculous.
On a platform that is drowning in bot activity. The threshold for abuse is on the floor
All Twitter users in the US will start to see crowdsourced fact checks on tweets
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#12"crowdsourced" from "reputable" sources, right? ;)
Snopes and the ADL
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#13No post body was provided.
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#14I was recently invited to be a lead on Nextdoor (I know, I know) and accepted so that I could peek behind the curtain. Their process is that any flagged content is voted on by leads to Leave it, Possibly Remove, or Remove. What I've observed is that posts that completely break the rules still have a 50/50 split.
My point being that many people are not able to objectively look at something and make a decision. Their opinions and feelings will always get mixed in. Twitter, good luck with the crowdsourcing :).
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#15Hmm. This sounds like there could be a positive feedback loop buried in here somewhere. Something like:
1. Status quo position is X.
2. New information comes in that says Y.
3. People tweet Y.
4. Crowd sourced "fact check" says that Y is false.
5. Twitter consensus becomes even more certain that X is true.
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#16How will this work when reality is partisan? The Hunter Biden laptop story was a debunked conspiracy by the “experts” until it wasn’t, and the recent Chinese election data stolen “conspiracy” (as declared by the NYT) turned out to be true. Yet day after day the stories about Trump and Russia were blasted by major media… until that was totally debunked. It’s like one side decides what is true and the other side is con…
I don't know these cases well but if Twitter (or someone) is able to compile the known information at the time & append as new insights become available that would be the most ideal way I can think of.
Hopefully they can be concise & have at minimum, two differing sides sharing non-opinionated references. Or at least stating the leniencies of said references.
Though this can still be very hard & lead to many rabbit holes of "Further reading".
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#17This is not how facts work, JFC.
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#18Wow crowdsourcing truth that's super great. I see no problems at all with this. It's not like angry partisans on one side would create and push fake stories and news about another horrible atrocity that person of an unpopular group that would lead to mass violence and genocide. Nothing like that has ever happenned with social media tools in countries like Mynamar.
I for one am worried though about what if bad people try to use mass brigading to flag blatantly true information, like how the COVID vaccine is 90% effective at preventing you from getting COVID. I think there should be some official oversight by a body like the federal government or something to make sure that only real "misinformation" gets flagged. Like for example it is well known that many hateful Neo-Nazi racist homophobic Klan members went out of their way to post bad reviews of the Amazon Rings of Power series because they were racist, bigoted, and radical reactionaries that want to destroy the foundations of America, then hid it behind compliants of "poor storywriting" and "glacial pacing".
In this example Amazon stepped in to eliminate information that was not correct, because the people who shared it were bad people. We know they were bad people that wanted bad things because they didn't like what was good, and it was good because it did good things.
This is a digression but highlights my point. I think this is a good thing to crowdsource fact checking, but should be reviewed by an official board to ensure that things don't get fact checked as misinformation that are actually 100% true, such as the efficacy of masks, or the fact that terrorists far right Neo-Nazis laid siege to the capital of Canada for months, and that things that are clearly misinformation such as questioning at all the reliability of masks, or discussing the impact of the COVID lockdown. Get flagged appropriately.
I also think twitter should do nothing about the bot problem that has been clearly evidenced to be happening on there since the person that shared that leak is probably a closet Neo-Nazi homophone since he associates with Elon Musk who is a billionaire and inherently evil.
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#19How will this work when reality is partisan? The Hunter Biden laptop story was a debunked conspiracy by the “experts” until it wasn’t, and the recent Chinese election data stolen “conspiracy” (as declared by the NYT) turned out to be true. Yet day after day the stories about Trump and Russia were blasted by major media… until that was totally debunked. It’s like one side decides what is true and the other side is con…
Some of the conspiracies didn’t conclude the way you say they do, or at least not completely. As far as I can tell, the current “consensus” is that the Hunter Biden laptop, while real, can’t prove any unethical behavior on the part of the president. And the Russian stuff — while Muller couldn’t prove that Trump asked Russia for help (beyond the video of him asking for it in camera, perhaps as a joke), it is still true that Russia played a severe part to helping Trump’s campaign.
So in my opinion the overall narrative of those stories (Russia interfered in the election to help Trump to his delight and Hunter Biden’s laptop doesn’t mean much) are still true to this day.
I think the prevailing narratives when the stories break leaned on facets that were more true: Russia was doing very concerning things. This laptop doesn’t contain proof of much of anything. Trump stated on camera he wanted Russia’s help. Etc.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have enough followers, what prevents you from harassing another user anyway? Crowdsourced, targeted harassment already happens all the time. This seems like it would just be a more convoluted and troublesome means to an already available end.
But this would be like putting an official “sanctioned by Twitter” badge on that harassment.
The “sanctioned by Twitter” badge already existed before this, it's called the verification checkmark. Many checkmarked accounts break twitter's rules on a daily basis, you can get away with almost anything if you're on the same side of the political spectrum as them.