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SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc

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Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc

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Post by ajross »

endominus wrote: post #3

From their post, it appears that Simula don't intend to comply with the subpoena. IANAL. Does receipt of these documents carry an obligation to provide the documents and deposition requested? Does this open them to later legal action if they refuse? It seems like a strange thing for a corporation to be able to demand that other companies hand over stuff like this, no matter the circumstance.

A subpoena is a court order (and the service requirement constitutes legal proof that it was delivered). Refusal to comply is contempt, which can be punished as a crime. No, you don't get to ignore a subpoena.

In this particular case it looks like they're just being asked to testify about their product in an unrelated case. They aren't being sued.

Call your lawyer first and do what they say. Most likely you can arrange a deposition more convenient to your schedule and location.

Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc

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Post by madamelic »

Sounds like ~~Meta~~ Facebook is planning on moving into SimulaVR's turf and wants to know all the details for free and is abusing a legal process to get it.

Doesn't seem like a coincidence they are the only tiny headset subpeonaed while others are big (public) corporations.

Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc

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Post by georgewsinger »

ajross wrote: post #11
endominus wrote: post #3

From their post, it appears that Simula don't intend to comply with the subpoena. IANAL. Does receipt of these documents carry an obligation to provide the documents and deposition requested? Does this open them to later legal action if they refuse? It seems like a strange thing for a corporation to be able to demand that other companies hand over stuff like this, no matter the circumstance.

A subpoena is a court order (and the service requirement constitutes legal proof that it was delivered). Refusal to comply is contempt, which can be punished as a crime. No, you don't get to ignore a subpoena. In this particular case it looks like they're just being asked to testify about their product in an unrelated case. They aren't being sued. Call your lawyer first and do what they say. Most likely you can arran…

Just want to clarify: we're not ignoring this subpoena and intend to comply with the law. We're in contact with a lawyer and are discussing our options with them.

Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc

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Post by throbintrash »

LeonenTheDK wrote: post #8

Well that is unfortunate. I would not want to be in Simula's position, I'm sure they've got enough on their plate without having to deal with stuff like this that they barely have an impact on in the first place. I understand that Meta needs to prove they're not a monopoly, and apparently the way to do that is through other companies laying their cards on the table, but my goodness would I feel uncomfortable giving c…

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Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc

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Post by endominus »

georgewsinger wrote: post #6
endominus wrote: post #3

From their post, it appears that Simula don't intend to comply with the subpoena. IANAL. Does receipt of these documents carry an obligation to provide the documents and deposition requested? Does this open them to later legal action if they refuse? It seems like a strange thing for a corporation to be able to demand that other companies hand over stuff like this, no matter the circumstance.

Just to clarify: we're seeking legal counsel and intend to comply with the law. Many other larger companies have fought these subpoenas (Snap, etc) and, as far as we can tell, still had to hand over items.

Apologies, I apparently read too much into your statement about difficulty of hiring a legal defense and your "hope [that] they leave us alone." Good luck and I hope this doesn't take the wind out of your sails too much.

Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc

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Post by kodah »

Raed667 wrote: post #9

Can someone explain why is meta entitled to see a 3rd party's business plans, financials and statistics?

It's explained in the post. The FTC accused them of being anti-competitive. The only way to show you're not anti-competitive is to demand documents of your opponents that demonstrate you still have competition.

Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc

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Post by bombcar »

ajross wrote: post #11
endominus wrote: post #3

From their post, it appears that Simula don't intend to comply with the subpoena. IANAL. Does receipt of these documents carry an obligation to provide the documents and deposition requested? Does this open them to later legal action if they refuse? It seems like a strange thing for a corporation to be able to demand that other companies hand over stuff like this, no matter the circumstance.

A subpoena is a court order (and the service requirement constitutes legal proof that it was delivered). Refusal to comply is contempt, which can be punished as a crime. No, you don't get to ignore a subpoena. In this particular case it looks like they're just being asked to testify about their product in an unrelated case. They aren't being sued. Call your lawyer first and do what they say. Most likely you can arran…

Who pays for all the costs associated with this? Can you abuse the legal system to drive a company into bankruptcy by repeatedly subpoenaing them?

Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc

#18

Post by marcinzm »

throbintrash wrote: post #14
LeonenTheDK wrote: post #8

Well that is unfortunate. I would not want to be in Simula's position, I'm sure they've got enough on their plate without having to deal with stuff like this that they barely have an impact on in the first place. I understand that Meta needs to prove they're not a monopoly, and apparently the way to do that is through other companies laying their cards on the table, but my goodness would I feel uncomfortable giving c…

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Why does it matter how other companies are to their point?

Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc

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Post by [deleted] »

kodah wrote: post #16
Raed667 wrote: post #9

Can someone explain why is meta entitled to see a 3rd party's business plans, financials and statistics?

It's explained in the post. The FTC accused them of being anti-competitive. The only way to show you're not anti-competitive is to demand documents of your opponents that demonstrate you still have competition.

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