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Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by iExploder »

chii wrote: post #178
Jevon23 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I can take copyrighted images and feed them into an AI, why can’t I take any code I find online and ignore the license terms and feed it into a compiler? How do you justify the existence of something like the GPL?

> why can’t I take any code I find online and ignore the license terms and feed it into a compiler? a compiler is not transformative. You translating a book into another language doesn't make it a new work. But an AI that takes billions of images, and uses it to synthesize something different and new, is fairly transformative under my eyes, and deserves new copyright. Unless the AI generated image is largely composed…

its actually exactly the same thing, the ai doesnt "synthetize" anything, its following its programming and data based on training sets

if anything I would argue that human taking code from multiple places and making it compile into something more useful is much more synthetiz-ing than AI...

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by chii »

robertlagrant wrote: post #152
micromacrofoot wrote: post #51

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Or you could have the same turnaround and half the employees, guess which is cheaper.

It's even cheaper to not have any employees at all, if that's your goal.

but then you'd have no output to sell, and no business to be had.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by chii »

navane wrote: post #177
kranke155 wrote: post #146

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Because you’re not a creative professional you’re only seeing the tip of the iceberg. Here’s the truth about creative work - most of is trash. You make a lot trash. Unimaginative, boring trash. You use that to pay your bills. The creative stuff that people love and share on Instagram is 10% of the work. The stuff you don’t share nor do you talk about is 90% of your income. The problem in this forum is people dont hav…

> 90% of the work is sludge, trash, unimaginative, boring trash. This pays the bill for the 5% you're proud of. So; learn prompt engineering to do the trash job, which will free up a lot of time to put in the 5% you're proud of.

The OP's argument is that prompt engineering to produce the trash won't pay the same, and so they will suffer an economic decline.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by t0bia_s »

anothernewdude wrote: post #160
t0bia_s wrote: post #158

AI wouldn't steal your job. I guess your clients require specific taks, nothing that can be precisely done by AI. Sure, it can help to speed up creative process, but if AI generated images/video is enough for your clients, than nothing new and innovative is made.

> than nothing new and innovative is made. But will people notice?

Those, who pay for innovations, specific tastk and actual art... Of course.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by micromacrofoot »

robertlagrant wrote: post #152
micromacrofoot wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or you could have the same turnaround and half the employees, guess which is cheaper.

It's even cheaper to not have any employees at all, if that's your goal.

Why even comment at this point

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by wombatpm »

cercatrova wrote: post #149
orbital-decay wrote: post #137

No offence, but all this moral panic induced by a spectacular AI demo looks really myopic. It puzzles me how many creative professionals are unable to see their edge somehow. The main value of your work is always conceptualization, even if you see yourself as a pixel pusher (if that's the case, it's most likely wrong), and it's not easy to master. Maybe you're just not aware of the current state of these tools, and t…

Ever is a very long time. Let's not dismiss it out of hand. We've already reached this far in 10 years from AlexNet, who knows where we will be in 10, 20, 30 years at this rate.

Welcome to the leading edge of the Singularity.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by P5fRxh5kUvp2th »

chii wrote: post #176
P5fRxh5kUvp2th wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bill Clinton has stated he was inspired to be president after a trip to the white house in his youth. People have been inspired to write about subject matter because of their experiences. AI takes lots of things that currently exist and mixNmatch. It's not nearly the same thing.

> It's not nearly the same thing. why not? Just because people take in experiences slowly, via senses, doesn't mean that an AI isn't replicating that learning via a fast method.

Do you believe that GPT-3 is going to want to become president after visiting the whitehouse?

If you answer no, then you must necessarily admit it's different.

It can do a lot of things, but in the end it's still just a glorified function.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by iExploder »

kranke155 wrote: post #90
ativzzz wrote: post #62

The only constant in life is change. There is no guarantee of stability or order in life, despite the human desire to carve it out where it doesn't exist. You can either embrace that change, or fight against it. Embracing the change means learning the new tools and adapting your job around them. Fighting against it means lobbying the government to create protectionist laws for your industry to prevent new technology…

This is the least BS comment I’ve seen here. Thanks you’re right, change is inevitable. I just dropped this here as a challenge if you will, but the overall feeling seems to be “you will actually make more money” or just “become an AÍ prompt person”. The first I don’t think is true and the second doesn’t interest me honestly. I trained in my craft so I could become a craftsman, if you will I’ve always wanted to becom…

it used to be that only taxes and death would come for us all, now AI is in on it as well,

maybe you could consider joining the machine on a project that feeds the AI with unique new art, I imagine the models will need to be updated or re-learned with "license friendly" art at some point, might be a nice way to go out with the bang..

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by egypturnash »

kranke155 wrote: post #36
egypturnash wrote: post #22

I am a 2d artist and I have similar feelings. Are you as full of loathing for all the HN people saying “just integrate the AI into your practice” as I am? I like drawing stuff and I love that this pays my bills and I really have zero interest in becoming a “prompt engineer” instead. I think a strategy of creating an image of AI art as cheap and tacky is useful. For how long, I don’t know. If we’re lucky then it’ll tu…

It’s ridiculous. There will be no integration - my job is just going to become less profitable and diverse. It’s beyond nonsense. I make 100k a year in London making CG. I don’t see how that will be available to me doing AÍ prompt work.

Yyyep. This whole situation fucking sucks.

Moving somewhere less expensive than London and doing your current work remotely might be an option, everything’s become less focused on going into the studio to work after the ‘rona. Lower your expenses and start playing with personal work, your client history can probably get you some interesting gallery opportunities to give you a decent chance at selling Authentically Human-Made work to rich folks at an absurd price.

I ditched your kind of career path a while back, I’m using the drawing skills learnt chasing the Hollywood animation dream to draw indy comics and furry porn. Makes less money but I can eke out a living in a much cheaper town than Los Angeles, and I pretty much draw what I want.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by egypturnash »

unity1001 wrote: post #98
egypturnash wrote: post #22

I am a 2d artist and I have similar feelings. Are you as full of loathing for all the HN people saying “just integrate the AI into your practice” as I am? I like drawing stuff and I love that this pays my bills and I really have zero interest in becoming a “prompt engineer” instead. I think a strategy of creating an image of AI art as cheap and tacky is useful. For how long, I don’t know. If we’re lucky then it’ll tu…

Could building up on what AI creates not work? For each technological advancement we had in the past 200 years had made it easier to do things at a certain level. Which enabled people to do more things and more complex things. Which just pushed up the average level of what we create higher. Can't AI be used to handle what the artists had to spent more effort to create before, therefore enabling artists to create more…

From my original reply:

Are you as full of loathing for all the HN people saying “just integrate the AI into your practice” as I am? I like drawing stuff and I love that this pays my bills and I really have zero interest in becoming a “prompt engineer” instead.

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