Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Our domain and 700 non-profit sites got blocked by Meta

simonbackx.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–20 of 180 posts

Re: Our domain and 700 non-profit sites got blocked by Meta

#11

Post by xphos »

paintman252 wrote: post #7
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't nationalise them, break them up. A state monopoly is preferable to a private monopoly, but in this case there's no reason we have to have a monopoly. Facebook and Google do too many things.

>Facebook and Google do too many things. Google? Definitely. Meta? Not really. All Meta has is two social networks and one messaging service. They haven't really experienced huge success in anything else. They MAY hit big in VR/AR space, but that's yet to be determined.

They still would definitely met the standard of a monopsony if not a monopoly. Its scary that an enormous number of people start and stop the information searching at google or those two social networks. I think its an oversimplification to say that just breaking them will solve the issue but they definitely handle a governmental level of power in terms of social after effects, which is why nation states target them for fake news.

Re: Our domain and 700 non-profit sites got blocked by Meta

#12

Post by eppp »

paintman252 wrote: post #7
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't nationalise them, break them up. A state monopoly is preferable to a private monopoly, but in this case there's no reason we have to have a monopoly. Facebook and Google do too many things.

>Facebook and Google do too many things. Google? Definitely. Meta? Not really. All Meta has is two social networks and one messaging service. They haven't really experienced huge success in anything else. They MAY hit big in VR/AR space, but that's yet to be determined.

On one hand you say they are so important they need to be nationalized and on the other you dismiss them as almost a couple of trivial apps. Which one is it?

Re: Our domain and 700 non-profit sites got blocked by Meta

#13

Post by base »

I don't have a specific solution for you, but I also run a domain with some thousands of subdomains and is always a fight to not be banned from Google, Meta, internet operators etc. Sometimes is enough one bad actor under one of your subdomains to have a full ban on the whole domain.

What I suggest is for your and your clients to contact Meta through the Business Center support. Their support for paying clients is much better. I would also recommend you become a Meta Business Partner if Facebook/Instagram is important for your SaaS.

Re: Our domain and 700 non-profit sites got blocked by Meta

#14

Post by indymike »

paintman252 wrote: post #2

This is why massive companies like Meta and Alphabet needs to be nationalised. They simply have too much power over lives of billions. This article is just another reminder of this. At scale that Meta operates, this algorithmically decided domain blockings mean nothing to them, but everything to hundred's of non-profits. There need to be legally mandated protections so things like this never happen again.

> This is why massive companies like Meta and Alphabet needs to be nationalised.

No. Giving this additional power to the government will not have the outcome you want. When something becomes too powerful, the solution is not to further concentrate that power into less accountable hands.

Re: Our domain and 700 non-profit sites got blocked by Meta

#15

Post by capableweb »

paintman252 wrote: post #7
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't nationalise them, break them up. A state monopoly is preferable to a private monopoly, but in this case there's no reason we have to have a monopoly. Facebook and Google do too many things.

>Facebook and Google do too many things. Google? Definitely. Meta? Not really. All Meta has is two social networks and one messaging service. They haven't really experienced huge success in anything else. They MAY hit big in VR/AR space, but that's yet to be determined.

Facebook is approaching 100 acquisitions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitio...

Feels like a lot and not just three entities.

Additionally, Facebook primarily does acquisitions as a form of hiring, according to Mark Zuckerberg himself. They buy the company so they can get the employees to come and work at Facebook.

Re: Our domain and 700 non-profit sites got blocked by Meta

#16

Post by [deleted] »

bilekas wrote: post #10
paintman252 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Facebook and Google do too many things. Google? Definitely. Meta? Not really. All Meta has is two social networks and one messaging service. They haven't really experienced huge success in anything else. They MAY hit big in VR/AR space, but that's yet to be determined.

Just did a check to see their subsidiaries and they actually have way more than I expected : https://inspirationfeed.com/what-companies-does-facebook-own...

[deleted]

Re: Our domain and 700 non-profit sites got blocked by Meta

#17

Post by WastingMyTime89 »

paintman252 wrote: post #7
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't nationalise them, break them up. A state monopoly is preferable to a private monopoly, but in this case there's no reason we have to have a monopoly. Facebook and Google do too many things.

>Facebook and Google do too many things. Google? Definitely. Meta? Not really. All Meta has is two social networks and one messaging service. They haven't really experienced huge success in anything else. They MAY hit big in VR/AR space, but that's yet to be determined.

> All Meta has is two social networks and one messaging service.

And a payment service, an ad platform, a marketplace, a VR R&D company, I never used them but I guess they also have a line of business services centred on social network communication, I’m probably forgetting plenty of things.

Re: Our domain and 700 non-profit sites got blocked by Meta

#18

Post by jefftk »

base wrote: post #13

I don't have a specific solution for you, but I also run a domain with some thousands of subdomains and is always a fight to not be banned from Google, Meta, internet operators etc. Sometimes is enough one bad actor under one of your subdomains to have a full ban on the whole domain. What I suggest is for your and your clients to contact Meta through the Business Center support. Their support for paying clients is mu…

> Sometimes is enough one bad actor under one of your subdomains to have a full ban on the whole domain.

If you're running independent subdomains where a bad actor on one should not affect the reputation of the rest, you probably should add your domain to the public suffix list: https://publicsuffix.org

Re: Our domain and 700 non-profit sites got blocked by Meta

#19

Post by is_true »

paintman252 wrote: post #2

This is why massive companies like Meta and Alphabet needs to be nationalised. They simply have too much power over lives of billions. This article is just another reminder of this. At scale that Meta operates, this algorithmically decided domain blockings mean nothing to them, but everything to hundred's of non-profits. There need to be legally mandated protections so things like this never happen again.

Would you be ok with the chinese or argentinian government running Alphabet or Meta?

I don't think most government are better than any corporation.

Re: Our domain and 700 non-profit sites got blocked by Meta

#20

Post by Xeoncross »

paintman252 wrote: post #2

This is why massive companies like Meta and Alphabet needs to be nationalised. They simply have too much power over lives of billions. This article is just another reminder of this. At scale that Meta operates, this algorithmically decided domain blockings mean nothing to them, but everything to hundred's of non-profits. There need to be legally mandated protections so things like this never happen again.

I know sub-optimal government is the default solution to all issues, but man, they are terrible with the monopolies they do control like healthcare, public education and infrastructure.
Post reply on HN