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My sense has been that Google and Deepmind ML has been pretty ingrained across the board in Google services. If they're still producing the the most advanced AI research, I don't see why that wouldn't be introduced into future products as well.
I'm sure machine learning has already been introduced in one way or another in almost all of Google's services. But the implementations are mostly in the backend and enhancements like better recommendations that don't jump out as incredible leaps in artificial intelligence. They are almost exclusively incremental rather than radical innovations, quantitative and not qualitative improvements. In terms of machine learn…
Imagen Video: high definition video generation with diffusion models
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The way I see it, input being confined to a "text description" is the next immediate problem that needs to be solved. I don't think we can rely on textual inputs for much longer as the human language is too imprecise and/or verbose. It's hard to imagine what exactly the optimal interface would be, but I'm thinking we'll need ways to dictate attributes for each entity being represented, the backdrop, and the view comp…
A "mood board" of inspiration images could be an interesting input method. With deep vision models, we can already separate different "levels" of concepts: a high level subject ("person riding a horse"), textures (the horse hair), medium (painting vs 3d rendering vs photograph), etc. It'd be interesting to have a "smart mood board" that goes from text prompt, to visualizing that hierarchy with different options. Then…
It is not far off.
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#363> However, there are several important safety and ethical challenges remaining. Imagen Video and its frozen T5-XXL text encoder were trained on problematic data. While our internal testing suggest much of explicit and violent content can be filtered out, there still exists social biases and stereotypes which are challenging to detect and filter. We have decided not to release the Imagen Video model or its source code…
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I agree basically completely, but there’s now a cottage industry of AI Ethics professionals whose real job is to provide a smoke screen for the “cake and eat it too” that the big shops want on this kit: peer review and open source contributions and an academic atmosphere when it suits them, proprietary when it doesn’t. Those folks are a lobby now. The thing about owning the data sets and the huge TPU/A100 clusters is…
This thread is cathartic. I've been feeling uncomfortable with the level of control being sought over the usage of these tools for a while, but didn't want to ruffle the wrong feathers while just getting into AI as a hobby. I think there will be a pretty short window in which all of this hand-waving will be taken seriously. Not because AI won't be used for terrible things (I'm sure it already is) but because consumer…
Something tells me these pricks will end up arguing for a reversion to thin-client compute. It is in their financial interest too after all.
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I totally agree. People often argue that photoshop has been around forever and so on. Creating sophisticated pornographic video of any individual is brand new. Creating an app that realistically removes clothing from any photo is new technology. I actually just now came up with an idea for a browser plug-in that removes clothing from every image loaded.
The trolling terrifies me. Trolling someone by creating awful video (just think about how deeply, photo-realistically, awful it could be - porn is just the tip of the iceberg) is going to get really bad. I am not sure how this is going to shake out. The easiest will be video of famous people doing awful things. A little harder is doing a custom training on a particular person's likeness, and videos of that person doi…
They clearly aren't the best arbiters of judgement, so who gets to decide "sever consequences"?
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Providing search results of the internet is not comparable to publishing a tool that can create any explicit scene your fingers can type out.
This is clearly a matter of opinion. When you frame it as "providing search results of the internet" yeah sure it doesn't sound so bad. But there are things on the internet far more fucked up than anything I could imagine, let alone describe in such a specific way that a model could generate a picture of it.
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#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
This thread is cathartic. I've been feeling uncomfortable with the level of control being sought over the usage of these tools for a while, but didn't want to ruffle the wrong feathers while just getting into AI as a hobby. I think there will be a pretty short window in which all of this hand-waving will be taken seriously. Not because AI won't be used for terrible things (I'm sure it already is) but because consumer…
> it doesn't matter how ethicists want "the general public" to use AI Something tells me these pricks will end up arguing for a reversion to thin-client compute. It is in their financial interest too after all.
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I'm going to take an unpopular position: there's no harm being done. It's not putting people in positions they would rather not be in, but putting their likeness into those situations. It's a key difference: if someone makes a paper mache of a naked Trump to use in a protest, is harm being done to him? The idea that it's "doing harm" is simply inventing a new form of lèse-majesté. Verbally, we regularly do the same:…
Be serious for a moment. If I circulated a convincing-looking video of Rick fucking goats to his parents, partner and his boss at the school where he works, that could easily do considerable harm to Rick.
For AI image generation to cause harm specifically, the harm has to be consequent to the additional realism.
IMO most of the harm from AI is likely to come from people not believing things that are real, and dismissing reality with “that’s just a deepfake”.
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#370I’ll be honest, as someone who worked in the film industry for a decade, this thread is depressing. It’s not the technology, it’s all the people in these comments who have never worked in the industry clamouring for its demise. One could brush it off as tech heads being over exuberant, but it’s the lack of understanding of how much fine control goes into each and every shot of a film that is depressing. If I, as a cr…
As a programmer, Copilot scares and excites me - not because I think it will become better than me at what I do in the short term (though in the long term - probably!) - but because I can already see how a well-structured use of such a tool could do a whole lot (80%?) of what I do. Mostly the easier stuff, mostly the relaxing-yet-tedious-time-filler stuff, but still - most of it. And it also crucially does much of what I did back when I was a junior/intermediate programmer.
Once this system is setup right - which capitalism basically guarantees it will - that's gonna suddenly cut quite a lot of my billable hours (80%?) and quite a lot the simpler work typically done by less-experienced programmers (80% of jobs?)
Granted, new capabilities like this also will lower the cost of creation, and thus the demands of the market are likely to grow. And it's possible that the few tricky things that AIs aren't so great at might even increase in value, since they will linchpin so much other opportunity. But will many people be replaced? Oh hell yes. And leaping that gap from an amateur relying on AIs to an expert surpassing them is going to be harder and harder, with no market to pay people in the in-between - they'll have to just be relatively-unpaid hobbyists til they develop the drive to jump to expertise.
Anyone suggesting AIs will just outright replace the film/photography/programming industry immediately is disingenuous. But even with only the currently known capabilities, it's not hard to imagine that these could eat up a dominant chunk of the work that's currently done, even while it expands the capabilities and thus scope of what will soon be possible. Like digital photography, it's gonna both devour and expand the industry, with a resulting much smaller niche of expert creators and a massive very-accessible dirt-cheap general public access that becomes the majority of the new market. 80-20. Everyone's about to become an artist, director, programmer, and everything else these things can enable, at an effective skill level that we normally consider at least "intermediate". We might still have that expert niche a bit longer... but give it a few more years..? ;)