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Re: macOS scanning and following downloaded QR codes has been retracted

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dagmx wrote: post #42
JimDabell wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re not kidding. From the earlier discussion: > this is the exact same technology Apple lets China use to hunt down their religious and political minorities > one thing is for certain; Apple doesn't treat privacy as a human right. If you can live with that, then more power to you. Something tells me people won’t use this as an excuse to accuse Firefox of human rights abuses though.

Anything Apple gets peoples hackles up. I think it’s because “favourite tech stack” is such a tribal thing, and there’s so many more Windows/Linux/Android users in tech communities

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Re: macOS scanning and following downloaded QR codes has been retracted

#52

Post by nomel »

dagmx wrote: post #42
JimDabell wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re not kidding. From the earlier discussion: > this is the exact same technology Apple lets China use to hunt down their religious and political minorities > one thing is for certain; Apple doesn't treat privacy as a human right. If you can live with that, then more power to you. Something tells me people won’t use this as an excuse to accuse Firefox of human rights abuses though.

Anything Apple gets peoples hackles up. I think it’s because “favourite tech stack” is such a tribal thing, and there’s so many more Windows/Linux/Android users in tech communities

I know someone that doesn’t tell people they work at Apple. They say it’s a death blow to making new friends, always resulting in in the same “well, I don’t like Apple because” or “well I prefer Android because” conversations (or their inverse).

I thought they were exaggerating until they proved it to me, by letting me witness the train wreck, at a social gathering.

Re: macOS scanning and following downloaded QR codes has been retracted

#53

Post by draconpern »

regularespresso wrote: post #35

How embarrassing for this man of many titles and authorities, to have his reputation upended by a foolish and avoidable false accusation. A slice of humble pie sticks in the throat, so it is heard.

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Re: macOS scanning and following downloaded QR codes has been retracted

#54

Post by dagmx »

wutbrodo wrote: post #49
dagmx wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything Apple gets peoples hackles up. I think it’s because “favourite tech stack” is such a tribal thing, and there’s so many more Windows/Linux/Android users in tech communities

I doubt it. All of bigtech gets the same deranged treatment: Google, Facebook, Microsoft, etc. It was a weird moment when I found myself defending fb on hn more often than I criticized them (I think they're atrocious), but the comments on bigtech stories are just that stupid.

I agree that all big tech gets it, and to be honest anything that’s not FOSS gets shit on a ton here.

But I do think Apple get it worse than other companies.

Android posts don’t get as many comments that range from conspiracy to calling users sheep.

Google gets ribbed for their ADHD but rarely criticized anywhere as much if Safari or Chrome both add their web proposals before standardization.

Apple hardware gets trivialized when performance comes up whereas Intel, AMD and NVidia get vaunted.

So I agree every big tech company gets railed on here, but I think Apple gets a disproportionate amount of it.

Before someone says it, That’s not me defending them as a company, it’s me tired of the terrible discourse on every post that mentions them. There’s lots of things that would be interesting to criticize them for and read about, but every thread divulges into the same exact community talking points.

Re: macOS scanning and following downloaded QR codes has been retracted

#55

Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #50
chaxor wrote: post #27

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How is using good Linux based OSes and self hosted FOSS not "enjoying modern technology". The systems are very nice honestly, because they give you much more control (e.g. windows vs Linux).

Well, because using any popular service or app is right out? Just looking at my own phone, payments, banking, planning transit rides, ordering cabs, keeping in touch with (online and offline) friends, streaming videos and music, gaming, ordering groceries, ordering takeout, translating documents, getting breaking news, taking (good) photos, and reporting vandalism to the city are all proprietary apps. I don’t see a s…

> Well, because using any popular service or app is right out?

> Just looking at my own phone, payments, banking, planning transit rides, ordering cabs, keeping in touch with (online and offline) friends, streaming videos and music, gaming, ordering groceries, ordering takeout, translating documents, getting breaking news, taking (good) photos, and reporting vandalism to the city are all proprietary apps.

Most if not all of those are websites that work fine in a perfectly normal browser on whatever operating system I care to use, in my experience.

Re: macOS scanning and following downloaded QR codes has been retracted

#56

Post by bitwize »

aleksiy123 wrote: post #9
vucetica wrote: post #7

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This community is funny at times. A lot of people had their opinions on those two threads, didn't they? Kudos to the ones who questioned the origin of the phenomenon instead of declaring immediately that the world is falling.

It's not even at times. It's all the time. Theres many threads where the actual information is sparse but people sound extremely confident about their conclusions. Makes me realise that much of the time people are just making stuff up, there's just nobody to call them out.

Hackernews has a whole lot of smart people, but the dark matter of the Hackernews universe is the much larger number of schlubs who cosplay as smart people online.

Re: macOS scanning and following downloaded QR codes has been retracted

#57

Post by codyb »

nomel wrote: post #52
dagmx wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything Apple gets peoples hackles up. I think it’s because “favourite tech stack” is such a tribal thing, and there’s so many more Windows/Linux/Android users in tech communities

I know someone that doesn’t tell people they work at Apple. They say it’s a death blow to making new friends, always resulting in in the same “well, I don’t like Apple because” or “well I prefer Android because” conversations (or their inverse). I thought they were exaggerating until they proved it to me, by letting me witness the train wreck, at a social gathering.

People seem to have _really strong opinions_ about Apple. I’m in an IRC group and the people in there are great but then very tribal when anyone mentions Apple.

It’s a little bizarre to me, the litany of things they can talk about. I’m pretty sure I spend just about 0% of my energy thinking about where people get their phones or which mobile operating system they use.

Re: macOS scanning and following downloaded QR codes has been retracted

#58

Post by Tijdreiziger »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #55
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, because using any popular service or app is right out? Just looking at my own phone, payments, banking, planning transit rides, ordering cabs, keeping in touch with (online and offline) friends, streaming videos and music, gaming, ordering groceries, ordering takeout, translating documents, getting breaking news, taking (good) photos, and reporting vandalism to the city are all proprietary apps. I don’t see a s…

> Well, because using any popular service or app is right out? > Just looking at my own phone, payments, banking, planning transit rides, ordering cabs, keeping in touch with (online and offline) friends, streaming videos and music, gaming, ordering groceries, ordering takeout, translating documents, getting breaking news, taking (good) photos, and reporting vandalism to the city are all proprietary apps. Most if not…

I know for certain that the services I depend on in at least half of those categories either don’t work in the browser, do work but don’t have full functionality, or are just the desktop version.

Re: macOS scanning and following downloaded QR codes has been retracted

#59

Post by malshe »

JimDabell wrote: post #26
aleksiy123 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not even at times. It's all the time. Theres many threads where the actual information is sparse but people sound extremely confident about their conclusions. Makes me realise that much of the time people are just making stuff up, there's just nobody to call them out.

You’re not kidding. From the earlier discussion: > this is the exact same technology Apple lets China use to hunt down their religious and political minorities > one thing is for certain; Apple doesn't treat privacy as a human right. If you can live with that, then more power to you. Something tells me people won’t use this as an excuse to accuse Firefox of human rights abuses though.

This potentially troll comment from the first thread:

> That's It. I am done. Back to Debian Linux full time for me. Anyone want to buy a lightly used MacBook Air M1?

I hope they didn't already sell their M1 MBA!

Re: macOS scanning and following downloaded QR codes has been retracted

#60

Post by [deleted] »

dagmx wrote: post #54
wutbrodo wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt it. All of bigtech gets the same deranged treatment: Google, Facebook, Microsoft, etc. It was a weird moment when I found myself defending fb on hn more often than I criticized them (I think they're atrocious), but the comments on bigtech stories are just that stupid.

I agree that all big tech gets it, and to be honest anything that’s not FOSS gets shit on a ton here. But I do think Apple get it worse than other companies. Android posts don’t get as many comments that range from conspiracy to calling users sheep. Google gets ribbed for their ADHD but rarely criticized anywhere as much if Safari or Chrome both add their web proposals before standardization. Apple hardware gets triv…

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