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Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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Post by yaix »

False alarm. I live in China. Just turned off my VPN and I can access the site, download the source and docs.

Sometimes there are regional blocks in some provinces, that may be the case, can't test it. But they are not targeting simple numbers. Maybe some other keyword triggered a dynamic block in some regional ISP's GFW system. You can get those dynamic blocks easily by searching on Google for certain keywords. For the next 3 minutes your Internet will stop working.

If there is any Chinese involved in node, s/he could just write an email to the "internet police" gov't dept and ask them to lift the blocking, if it actually exists anywhere in the country.

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

#32

Post by jrockway »

What exactly is the point of China's censorship when you can just go to Hong Kong, part of China, and browse a censorship-free version of the Internet?

(Also, how do big US companies do business in China? Are they allowed to VPN to the real Internet? What if someone visiting from abroad mentions Tienanmen Square?)

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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Post by briandear »

yaix wrote: post #31

False alarm. I live in China. Just turned off my VPN and I can access the site, download the source and docs. Sometimes there are regional blocks in some provinces, that may be the case, can't test it. But they are not targeting simple numbers. Maybe some other keyword triggered a dynamic block in some regional ISP's GFW system. You can get those dynamic blocks easily by searching on Google for certain keywords. For…

Lol. "Write to the Internet police." Yeah, good luck with that. The government doesn't ever officially acknowledge sites that are blocked. Even the AWS east coast data center (read: heroku) is blocked in China intermittently. All writing to the mythical Internet police would accomplish is getting your name on a list of people with a stated desire to visit 'pornography'.

Internet companies that don't end in .cn and start with 'Tencent' or 'Baidu' are better of just leaving China. It'll never be good here as long as the communists are in power.

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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Post by Ecio78 »

jrockway wrote: post #32

What exactly is the point of China's censorship when you can just go to Hong Kong, part of China, and browse a censorship-free version of the Internet? (Also, how do big US companies do business in China? Are they allowed to VPN to the real Internet? What if someone visiting from abroad mentions Tienanmen Square?)

Do you think that 1billion people will move to HK just to browse a censorship-free version of the Internet?

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

#36

Post by Ecio78 »

jrockway wrote: post #32

What exactly is the point of China's censorship when you can just go to Hong Kong, part of China, and browse a censorship-free version of the Internet? (Also, how do big US companies do business in China? Are they allowed to VPN to the real Internet? What if someone visiting from abroad mentions Tienanmen Square?)

Do you think that 1billion people will move to HK just to browse a censorship-free version of the Internet?

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

#37

Post by briandear »

jrockway wrote: post #32

What exactly is the point of China's censorship when you can just go to Hong Kong, part of China, and browse a censorship-free version of the Internet? (Also, how do big US companies do business in China? Are they allowed to VPN to the real Internet? What if someone visiting from abroad mentions Tienanmen Square?)

Not every Chinese person can just go to Hong Kong. Also the blocking isn't about censorship as much as it's about creating an unfair advantage to the Chinese companies who pay huge kickbacks to certain top officials. China can do context specific blocking but instead they block entire sites like FB and Twiiter in order to let the local guys gain dominance. Once FB is unblocked, by then it will be irrelevant.

On the second part of your question, western companies use VPNs. The corporate VPNs are not running on the same service as 'normal' residential connections so they aren't subject to the same countermeasures.

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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Post by biesnecker »

mmaunder wrote: post #30

Tiananmen Square protests: Year: 89 Date: 6/4 Both 89 and 64 are blocked by the GFW. Censorship of recent history this blatant seems less like historical negationism and more like the statement: "Speak of this event and face severe punishment."

Neither 89 nor 64 are blocked by GFW -- that's a terribly simplistic view of how the system works. There are plenty of things that can trigger temporary, automated blocks, and perhaps the version number _did_ cause the block (as unlikely as that seems), but to blanket say that certain integers are blocked by the GFW is FUD.

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

#39

Post by biesnecker »

be5invis wrote: post #22
foobarbazetc wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because they're manually checking the page as it loads. Once it's okay'ed, it'll load instantly the next time. Seriously.

Page content detection currently is ONLY targeted to Wikipedia. It checks article content and block it when a "keyword" detected.

Are you sure it's only Wikipedia? Seems unlikely. I don't have any hard data (neither does most anyone else, though), but I frequently have connections reset that seem to be related to page content on non-Wikipedia sites.
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