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For those that don’t know, the City of London is the ancient Roman core of Metropolitan London. It has its own separate police force, distinct from the Metropolitan Police that looks after the rest of London. The City is also governed differently to the rest of England. I’m guessing this document is probably part of the reason why. It’s the only place in the UK that’s not run on the basis of 1 person 1 vote. Instead…

Every local authority in the UK is a corporation. ~ The City of London Corporation run by committees of elected members meeting in public with agendas & minutes online, as per the Local Government Act 1972.

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I watched the Video but besides the "king entering the city ceremony" it didn't show what it makes it unique compared to other city states around the world.

It's a city state without the state as it isn't internationally recognised.

The City of London is part of Greater London http://legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1963/33/section/2 residents & businesses are subject to the same laws & taxes as the rest of England.

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To add a little colour to this. The resident population of the city is less than 10k - I’d guess around 3-4k in one development the Barbican Centre - but 500k work there. 10k is about one tenth of the population per Member of Parliament in the U.K. The City of London Police number just over 800. So the demographics for a ‘city’ are very odd too.

I went on an architectural tour of the Barbican Centre a few years ago - it was great, highly recommended (particularly if you're a fan of Brutalism, an under-appreciated style). Anyway, the (excellent) tour guide explained the reason that the development has the 3-4k population mentioned above. Apparently the destruction of housing stock caused by WWII bombing of the City was such that the population no longer justi…

I am afraid that story is codswallop. The City of London lost its 'own' seat in the House of Commons before the decision to develop the Barbican as residential was made. (Since the 1950 election the City of London has been part of the Cities of the Cities of London and Westminster parliamentary constituency.)

Re: The City of London’s oldest document is currently on public display

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For those that don’t know, the City of London is the ancient Roman core of Metropolitan London. It has its own separate police force, distinct from the Metropolitan Police that looks after the rest of London. The City is also governed differently to the rest of England. I’m guessing this document is probably part of the reason why. It’s the only place in the UK that’s not run on the basis of 1 person 1 vote. Instead…

Weird that it’s independence is guaranteed in the Magna-freaking Carta.

It is not. Magna Carta merely preserved the privileges the City had at the time. Since the late 19th Century everywhere in England has had its own local government, so that is no longer a privilege.

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It's not that different. There are 43 police forces in the country, with different specialities, and the City of London force leads (not very well) on financial crime. Businesses do have a vote in local elections, but that was standard across the UK until the Representation of the People Act 1969. The Corporation of London is basically just a local council like any other, albeit with a load of money and a load of mea…

Well on the one hand you're saying it's not that strange, on the other there's the election process for who can become Lord Mayor of the City of London. ;) In most parts of the country the "Worshipful Society of Apothecaries" plays very little part in local governance... Here's another video from CGP Grey that explains it rather well:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ROpIKZe-c ...and when did all this start? No bod…

In theory the Lord Mayor is elected by 20,000 Liverymen, in practice s/he is chosen by Aldermen from amongst themselves. 27 London Boroughs have a mayor (City of Westminster a Lord mayor) chosen by councillors from amongst themselves. ~~~ CPG Grey is a bit of fun, not a documentary.

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For those that don’t know, the City of London is the ancient Roman core of Metropolitan London. It has its own separate police force, distinct from the Metropolitan Police that looks after the rest of London. The City is also governed differently to the rest of England. I’m guessing this document is probably part of the reason why. It’s the only place in the UK that’s not run on the basis of 1 person 1 vote. Instead…

I think "corporation" in this context is just a slightly antiquated term for a unit of local government.

It is not antiquated, but merely a descriptive that has fallen from common usage. ~ Every local authority in the UK is a corporation and up until c 1970 is was common to see 'Wherever' Corporation buses in British Cities.

Re: The City of London’s oldest document is currently on public display

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For those that don’t know, the City of London is the ancient Roman core of Metropolitan London. It has its own separate police force, distinct from the Metropolitan Police that looks after the rest of London. The City is also governed differently to the rest of England. I’m guessing this document is probably part of the reason why. It’s the only place in the UK that’s not run on the basis of 1 person 1 vote. Instead…

For those that don't know, "William the Conqueror" is also known as "William the Bastard". This was not the name used by my school teachers and I just wonder how different history lessons would have been had this name been used. The Normans were Vikings that 'co-opted' the women in Normandy to become 'Normans'. Not the first empire to expand with rape and pillage, but it is interesting how British history accommodate…

City of London part of Greater London http://legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1963/33/section/2 residents & businesses subject to same laws & taxes as the rest of England.

Re: The City of London’s oldest document is currently on public display

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For those that don't know, "William the Conqueror" is also known as "William the Bastard". This was not the name used by my school teachers and I just wonder how different history lessons would have been had this name been used. The Normans were Vikings that 'co-opted' the women in Normandy to become 'Normans'. Not the first empire to expand with rape and pillage, but it is interesting how British history accommodate…

> The City of London is a tax haven. Flat out not true. This is where you quote an article from Nicholas Shaxson wherein he wrote a book on the subject in which he totally failed to prove his assertion. A company in the city of london is subject to all the same laws as anywhere else in the UK. Stop lying

Shaxson the Zurich based UFO spotter who failed to comprehend the existence of the 32 London Boroughs that along with the City of London make up Greater London. (He apparently thought the Mayor of London ran everything outside of the City.)

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I went on an architectural tour of the Barbican Centre a few years ago - it was great, highly recommended (particularly if you're a fan of Brutalism, an under-appreciated style). Anyway, the (excellent) tour guide explained the reason that the development has the 3-4k population mentioned above. Apparently the destruction of housing stock caused by WWII bombing of the City was such that the population no longer justi…

I am afraid that story is codswallop. The City of London lost its 'own' seat in the House of Commons before the decision to develop the Barbican as residential was made. (Since the 1950 election the City of London has been part of the Cities of the Cities of London and Westminster parliamentary constituency.)

Thanks for the info; I had my suspicions...

Re: The City of London’s oldest document is currently on public display

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> The City of London is a tax haven. Flat out not true. This is where you quote an article from Nicholas Shaxson wherein he wrote a book on the subject in which he totally failed to prove his assertion. A company in the city of london is subject to all the same laws as anywhere else in the UK. Stop lying

Shaxson the Zurich based UFO spotter who failed to comprehend the existence of the 32 London Boroughs that along with the City of London make up Greater London. (He apparently thought the Mayor of London ran everything outside of the City.)

Indeed. particularly good proof at how trivial it is to disperse misinformation. I note depending on the bias of that information it seems more likely to become pervasive.
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