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Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by colinmhayes »

tengbretson wrote: post #29
egypturnash wrote: post #22

I am a 2d artist and I have similar feelings. Are you as full of loathing for all the HN people saying “just integrate the AI into your practice” as I am? I like drawing stuff and I love that this pays my bills and I really have zero interest in becoming a “prompt engineer” instead. I think a strategy of creating an image of AI art as cheap and tacky is useful. For how long, I don’t know. If we’re lucky then it’ll tu…

This really resonates with me. I used to enjoy working as a 35mm film projectionist. Now that everything is digital the opportunities for making money doing it have basically disappeared. Am I supposed to be excited that now I can just push a button and focus more of my attention on selling popcorn? Fortunately I enjoy writing code.

I don’t think you’re necessarily supposed to be excited about your job.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by pessimizer »

ALittleLight wrote: post #58
KMnO4 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re telling a highly creative person to pursue an unstimulating job that they’re not passionate about.

This kind of comes across like you're implying there are different classes of people and our kind are too good to be plumbers. If you're worried about AI taking your job, then taking a job that AI can't do seems like a pretty reasonable response.

The upper-middle class have a god-given right to make a very good living expressing their creativity and opinions.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

colinmhayes wrote: post #71
tengbretson wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This really resonates with me. I used to enjoy working as a 35mm film projectionist. Now that everything is digital the opportunities for making money doing it have basically disappeared. Am I supposed to be excited that now I can just push a button and focus more of my attention on selling popcorn? Fortunately I enjoy writing code.

I don’t think you’re necessarily supposed to be excited about your job.

Perhaps not, but it certainly makes life a lot more enjoyable.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by bobsmooth »

KMnO4 wrote: post #31
bobsmooth wrote: post #23

Become a plumber. It'll be a while till robots can replace you in the trades.

You’re telling a highly creative person to pursue an unstimulating job that they’re not passionate about.

There are millions of people working unstimulating jobs they're not passionate about. Why is the OP special?

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by illwrks »

For any large company (with a brand team) these tools will only ever be a starting point to get a general direction. It might remove some initial back and forth working through some basic things that a junior might do. The output might then be used as a prompt for the creative agencies they work with. The brand is the sacred and I doubt anyone would take the risk with anything that isn't 100% controlled (photoshoot, CGI etc)

For the smaller companies, the mom and pop ones mentioned elsewhere in the thread, this will probably kill any creative work from them.

Also, consider going in-house into a large corporate. They usually have marketing and comms teams, if not external facing then internal. Then when these tools mature you could leverage them to knock out internal work at tighter deadlines.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by shakabrah »

colinmhayes wrote: post #67
shakabrah wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with your example is that it assumes there is a place for him to go to. Stable hands becoming mechanics. That is the key concern with automation replacing jobs is that it is a zero sum game.

Lump of labor fallacy. Automation is not a zero sum game because it creates new jobs.

These are some bold claims. Id like to see some evidence.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by cma »

someweirdperson wrote: post #45
etrautmann wrote: post #34

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why do we even call it theft or pretend that any artist arrived at ideas without inspiration?

For humans the inspiration can be something else than the medium to use. Watching reality can provide inspiration for creating a video. And I'm pretty sure that's wher most inspiration comes from. It cannot for AI. Of course in a world where everything exists AI doesn't need inspiration from other sources.

It can for AI, it is consuming and mixing in training trail cam images, etc. that weren't composed shots.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by can16358p »

markdown wrote: post #70
notjustanymike wrote: post #52

Auto-generated content has a tendency to raise only the baseline in industries. For web development first it was Dreamweaver, then WordPress templates, then SquareSpace and Wix. Bootstrap came along, then Material and a thousand other prepackaged design languages. While these advancements reduced the income from building mom & pop restaurant websites, the demand for high-end curated sites never really changed. Just f…

> those clients never dry up As someone who used to work in web dev, they most certainly do and did. And you have an ever growing pool (worldwide) of workers who are jostling over that dwindling supply of gigs.

Yup, I second that.

Many places that I've worked with are now considering using a zero code website creator instead of actually coding, and for many scenarios it just works perfectly, cheap, and flawlessly. Of course it's not for everything especially if there's customization and server technologies involved, but it's very big to create disruption.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by [deleted] »

colinmhayes wrote: post #67
shakabrah wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with your example is that it assumes there is a place for him to go to. Stable hands becoming mechanics. That is the key concern with automation replacing jobs is that it is a zero sum game.

Lump of labor fallacy. Automation is not a zero sum game because it creates new jobs.

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Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by jacobn »

shakabrah wrote: post #50
exolymph wrote: post #48

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> I like drawing stuff and I love that this pays my bills and I really have zero interest in becoming a “prompt engineer” instead. I'm not sure how to say this in a non-dickish way, but most of us have to do stuff we don't particularly enjoy in order to make a living. I get that it sucks from your vantage point, but like... I'm sure there were stablehands who loved horses and had no interest in becoming mechanics. Sh…

The problem with your example is that it assumes there is a place for him to go to. Stable hands becoming mechanics. That is the key concern with automation replacing jobs is that it is a zero sum game.

The danger is less with automation and more with the speed of automation.

It's hard to retrain. When the change happens between generations there's a natural progression with parent: stable hand, child: mechanic.

When it happens 1-2-5 times in a person's career, then those are some really painful resets.

Sure, some will swim. But the social contract with democracy isn't that "some" swim, it's that "almost everyone swims" (which we generally call "everybody", but that's a separate discussion).

Long term and across society automation is absolutely positive sum. But short-to-long term for those on the short end of the stick it's clearly not.

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