Nix Team Creation

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Post by slb » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 4:22 PM UTC

Nix Team Creation
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Re: Nix Team Creation

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Post by thomastjeffery » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 5:14 PM UTC

Good news. Nix has really been floundering lately. It needs some assertive direction.

Re: Nix Team Creation

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Post by nonbirithm » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 5:15 PM UTC

I'm glad this is happening. I was hoping that maybe the Nix/NixOS developers could have a dedicated documentation maintainer or two to make deeper learning about each system more accessible. Although I can make my way around NixOS, I feel that's only possible because I could look over the obscure parts of the configs of people more obsessed with Nix than me.

The old development style mentioned reminds me of that excessively mentioned essay about Lisp hackers keeping to themselves. I wonder if there's something intrinsic to certain developer-oriented projects like these that lead people to tinker with them on their own for long periods of time.

Re: Nix Team Creation

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Post by colordrops » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 5:18 PM UTC

thomastjeffery wrote: post #2

Good news. Nix has really been floundering lately. It needs some assertive direction.

Has it been floundering? Could you provide some context?

Re: Nix Team Creation

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Post by jalino23 » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 5:32 PM UTC

>> Nix is the cornerstone of the ecosystem

I thought Nix is the ecosystem?

Re: Nix Team Creation

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Post by outworlder » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 5:32 PM UTC

jalino23 wrote: post #5

>> Nix is the cornerstone of the ecosystem I thought Nix is the ecosystem?

Nix vs NixOS?

Re: Nix Team Creation

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Post by Ericson2314 » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 5:33 PM UTC

jalino23 wrote: post #5

>> Nix is the cornerstone of the ecosystem I thought Nix is the ecosystem?

Hopefully some things get renamed eventually!

Re: Nix Team Creation

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Post by n42 » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 5:34 PM UTC

colordrops wrote: post #4

thomastjeffery wrote: post #2

Good news. Nix has really been floundering lately. It needs some assertive direction.

Has it been floundering? Could you provide some context?

Should I use flakes or not? Every single library I find is a Nix Flake, but insists that Flakes are experimental. Who makes the decision that they are not experimental? At what point does majority adoption of flakes overrule? Why are they still behind a feature flag in the CLI?

What is Nickel? Is this an officially endorsed project? It’s run by Tweag — do they run Nix? Most core contributors work for Tweag. What is the fate of the Nix language? Should I start investing in this new language?

Why is documentation still so bad? Why is there not a clear and official answer to documentation generation? Syntax linting? Testing? Who is in charge of trying to fix SEO for documentation?

Nix is technologically sound but is struggling organizationally from its explosive growth

Re: Nix Team Creation

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Post by rgoulter » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 5:35 PM UTC

colordrops wrote: post #4

thomastjeffery wrote: post #2

Good news. Nix has really been floundering lately. It needs some assertive direction.

Has it been floundering? Could you provide some context?

I'm not aware of context, but looking at the latest release seems to have fewer changes compared to the releases before it. https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/release-notes/rl-2.11.ht...

Re: Nix Team Creation

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Post by nvln » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 5:37 PM UTC

Fantastic. This year I managed to get my development environment(s) with declarative, shared configurations almost completely managed by nix. This is the first success for me after trying to do this with multiple tools over the past decade.

I'm blown away by what Nix/NixOS has accomplished without having a formal team in place. Kudos to the maintainer(s), community and best wishes to the new Nix Team.