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Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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this is lame and I bet half the government officials in China don't even care about implementing such a policy.. heck, I bet 95% don't care, they just follow orders and fear rebelling. Heck, I bet just a handful of them care at most. I mean, it can't be that fulfilling to make censorship your life purpose.

I sort of agree with your general point, but I think there's something else going on too:

Actively favoring and caring about this kind of thing advances your career, social status, etc, in China (for some career paths, not all). There are incentives to care. Consequently, many people learn to care and become true believers. (Faking like you care is harder to get right than being genuine, and requires better thinking, and the people who can do that usually go for other jobs, so it's much rarer.)

Lots of people do more than follow orders, they internalize some of the values of the people they are trying to please. And they learn skills like figuring out which way the wind is blowing without being told, and figuring out how to convince themselves that is good, and then (if they are ambitious, or under pressure from their wife to make more money, or whatever) they may even try to get out in front of the thing, show their dedicated enthusiasm, take initiative, seek a leadership role, etc... All the while, they are not in general thinking about how they are secretly opposed to what they are doing, which would be unpleasant and get in the way of their success.

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

#13

According on the link '64' and '89' are banned numbers. Well, the Chinese government is mathematically limited to a maximum of 98 more such bans.

Why on earth would a government ban a particular integer? And what exactly does this entail? Are you allowed to utter the words? When you learn to count to 100 do you have to skip them?

> Why on earth would a government ban a particular integer?

See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3309452

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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As a Chinese programmer: Please stop talking about it on HN. Save HN for us............. EDIT:as being misunderstood I claim that I hate GFW as much as I love freedom and decent programs.

[NEW]I just ask my friends in China to visit the site and it turns out to be ok. Don't know how and when it recovered. Another funny story is python.org is blocked for a long time. Somebody say it is the version number 2.6.4; Somebody claim it's because GAE(could be set up as proxy); The other part believe it's because python.com...... We don't know which is the truth or neither of them.

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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As a Chinese programmer: Please stop talking about it on HN. Save HN for us............. EDIT:as being misunderstood I claim that I hate GFW as much as I love freedom and decent programs.

If enough people stop talking about it in enough places, then the govt will have successfully edited the internet at large. Potential tragedy of the commons, limited mainly by outrage.

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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post #12

As a Chinese programmer: Please stop talking about it on HN. Save HN for us............. EDIT:as being misunderstood I claim that I hate GFW as much as I love freedom and decent programs.

If enough people stop talking about it in enough places, then the govt will have successfully edited the internet at large. Potential tragedy of the commons, limited mainly by outrage.

You are right. I'm just try some self-mockery in my poor English. I believe it's neither legal or moral and I constantly encourage my friends to say something as I do.

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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As a Chinese programmer: Please stop talking about it on HN. Save HN for us............. EDIT:as being misunderstood I claim that I hate GFW as much as I love freedom and decent programs.

This is completely the wrong attitude. Should we stop using the number 64 in our software too? That's fucking insane. Get a VPN, leave the country, use tor, or otherwise figure out how to get around the firewall. You're asking us to essentially pretend, at high cost, that we are also behind the Great Firewall of China, and we will not do that.

Edit: It looks like you were joking. I get that. I just don't want this community to actually seriously sympathize with this concept.

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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I am a Chinese programmer and I have to say, we cannot jump the conclusions that nodejs.org is blocked in China at this period. Only quite few persons cannot open the site. We shouldn't be that sensitive and lead the topic even more political.

GFW is really INSANE, but this is not the right place to fuck it.

Re: Node.js 0.6.4 was blocked in China

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post #12

As a Chinese programmer: Please stop talking about it on HN. Save HN for us............. EDIT:as being misunderstood I claim that I hate GFW as much as I love freedom and decent programs.

This is completely the wrong attitude. Should we stop using the number 64 in our software too? That's fucking insane. Get a VPN, leave the country, use tor, or otherwise figure out how to get around the firewall. You're asking us to essentially pretend, at high cost, that we are also behind the Great Firewall of China, and we will not do that. Edit: It looks like you were joking. I get that. I just don't want this co…

Got you. My bad. I must say that is exactly why I devote myself into computer science: it's a world that you know what you gonna get when you do things right and more importantly people believe that is the right way to live. I'm living in US for about half year and will go back at the end of this month. One thing I'm 100% sure now is that I will come back here.
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