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Re: Internet Archive Seeks Material for Library of Amateur Radio and Communications

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Post by adhesive_wombat »

giantrobot wrote: post #17
thrdbndndn wrote: post #7

Probably totally digress, but I wish IA can organize their digital library slightly better. One day I was checking some manga books by ISBN on IA just out of curiosity. And for some reason, it put the ISBNs for all the volumes of a manga into one single entry ( https://archive.org/details/isbn_1919979003907 , check "ISBN" metadata section) and unsurprisingly, the actual content is only one volume, vol.43 (not even vo…

A lot of the time the metadata accuracy is up to the original uploader. IA's upload system doesn't magically fill in all the metadata details for an item.

Also doesn't allow other to update metadata or even submit for review.

Wikidata has a property for Internet Archive ID, so it wouldn't be conceptually hard to construct a parallel metadata store there, but it would involve hundreds of millions of triples so it's definitely "hard" in other senses.

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Post by Johnythree »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #53
savetz wrote: post #2

Internet Archive has begun gathering content for the Digital Library of Amateur Radio and Communications (DLARC), which will be a massive online library of materials and collections related to amateur radio and early digital communications. The DLARC project is looking for contributors with troves of ham radio, amateur radio, and early digital communications related books, magazines, documents, catalogs, manuals, vid…

I have been loving this site for old radio/electronics magazines: https://worldradiohistory.com/ I would assume archive.org would just ask permission to hoover (mirror) it.

> I have been loving this site for old radio/electronics magazines:

And many hundreds of books.

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Post by jimnotgym »

PM_me_your_math wrote: post #59
jimnotgym wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> software Amatuer radio seems full of little software tools to do calculations that are closed source. I hope the authors can be encouraged to publish source, or it will die with them.

Maybe they want it that way? Why do you always need access to someone else's work. Many of them build these apps to fund their hobbies or put a little food on the table.

Many of these tools are free to download, nothing to do with putting food on the table. When the old man that wrote them dies the tools are lost.

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Post by Johnythree »

EamonnMR wrote: post #20

http://www.ominous-valve.com/shortwve.html Some quality stuff there.

Sadly, the .RA files are missing from that site.

However you can download the broken file, (eg "lpl.ra")

open it with a text editor, and extract the URL (eg http://home.att.net/~philys.la/lpl.ra)

And put that into the Internet Archive.

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Post by readsadhours »

cormorant wrote: post #29
Gigachad wrote: post #23

The IA has really lost its reputation as an archive by choosing to remove content down for political purposes. They see themselves as publishers rather than an archive.

I attempted to google to guess what you meant. I found: (1) they recently removed KiwiFarms; (2) in 2020, they began labeling certain pages with "fact checks"; (3) they remove content by request of the site owner or by copyright complaint. Of those, (2) seems the most political, but it's not removing content. Was there something else you had in mind?

They also remove legal pornographic content https://archive.org/post/1053748/porn-on-ia-wtf https://archive.org/post/1123868/no-bdsm-allowed

I think that puritanism and archivism are not compatible.

They also removed ISIS stuff https://archive.org/post/1033012/constant-removal-of-isis-vi...

Removing evidence of war-crimes and disallowing future historians from accessing such content in the future is not a policy that I would expect from an archive.

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Post by PM_me_your_math »

jimnotgym wrote: post #63
PM_me_your_math wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they want it that way? Why do you always need access to someone else's work. Many of them build these apps to fund their hobbies or put a little food on the table.

Many of these tools are free to download, nothing to do with putting food on the table. When the old man that wrote them dies the tools are lost.

Many yes, but not all of them.

Re: Internet Archive Seeks Material for Library of Amateur Radio and Communications

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Post by PM_me_your_math »

ianpenney wrote: post #60
PM_me_your_math wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they want it that way? Why do you always need access to someone else's work. Many of them build these apps to fund their hobbies or put a little food on the table.

amateur radio service means a radiocommunication service in which radio apparatus are used for the purpose of self-training, intercommunication or technical investigation by individuals who are interested in radio technique solely with a personal aim and *without pecuniary interest;* (service de radioamateur) - https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-96-484/F... So … you just wouldn’t be able to talk abou…

Pecuniary rules apply to operating radio services using amateur radio for business. It doesn't mean you are restricted from profiting from create equipment, tools, or training.

You can absolutely talk about these interests, your business, or your work building things (e.g. antennas) for the ham market. You just can't conduct business, such as hopping on 80M and advertising a sale on antennas, or taking payment for communications between parties, for example.

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Post by BoxOfRain »

PM_me_your_math wrote: post #59
jimnotgym wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> software Amatuer radio seems full of little software tools to do calculations that are closed source. I hope the authors can be encouraged to publish source, or it will die with them.

Maybe they want it that way? Why do you always need access to someone else's work. Many of them build these apps to fund their hobbies or put a little food on the table.

Not an amateur radio guy myself but from what I understand it's supposed to be a strictly non-commercial undertaking which means it's a bit churlish to keep your code closed-source.
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