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Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by rubyfan »

ansc wrote: post #68
nonrandomstring wrote: post #62

Really enjoying IF and it's had enormous benefits for me. The doc basically said my latest bloods are outstanding, way, way down from the serious telling-off I got 6 months ago. I'm not using someone else's schedule, just listening to my body and pushing boundaries as hard as my fitness will allow. But there are mental "downsides" to reckon with. It's not grumpiness, but rather a "predatory" state. Not quite aggressi…

It's a beautiful thing that we can rebrand "hangry" as "warrior mode". I also noticed this and just came to the conclusion that having breakfast and being in a good mood ("off edge"/"relaxed"/"opposite of warrior mode") was more worth it.

I’m going to tell my wife I’m in “warrior mode” the next time I’m being a hangry jerk. I wonder how that will go.

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Post by vjk800 »

lhl wrote: post #52
mrslave wrote: post #10

I am always unsure how this applies to someone with an irregular exercise schedule. If, when fasting (intermittent) my exercise is primarily cardio then I will continue fasting. However if it is resistance training, does getting some protein into my system as soon as possible take priority over fasting? Or is this less important than the immediate-protein-shake crowd suggests? Should I try to pull the window forward…

A few researchers, notably Alan Aragon and Brad Schoenfeld did a lot of analysis on protein timing research a while back and the general conclusion is that as long as you get enough protein during the course of the day (or within a few hours of your workout), basically it doesn't matter so much. Sources: Aragon, Alan Albert, and Brad Jon Schoenfeld. “Nutrient Timing Revisited: Is There a Post-Exercise Anabolic Window…

This makes more sense than "you have to eat protein within one hour from exercising". Why? Because wouldn't it take a lot longer for the protein to get digested in your body? Possibly many hours, depending on the source of protein. And if, after exercising, I'm still digesting protein I've eaten several hours earlier, what difference can it make if I add some more that will just get digested several hours later, provided that the total amount of protein is kept constant.

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by guywhocodes »

tetris11 wrote: post #65
nonrandomstring wrote: post #62

Really enjoying IF and it's had enormous benefits for me. The doc basically said my latest bloods are outstanding, way, way down from the serious telling-off I got 6 months ago. I'm not using someone else's schedule, just listening to my body and pushing boundaries as hard as my fitness will allow. But there are mental "downsides" to reckon with. It's not grumpiness, but rather a "predatory" state. Not quite aggressi…

I know this feeling well. This is a false sense of sharpness caused by undereating. You dont feel hungry or tired, just energized, light and strong. I say false sense of sharpness, because you're actually not that alert. Yes, you can push yourself more, but your brain is in flight/fright mode and not thinking rationally.

I always significant increase in weight lifting exercises immediately upon starting fasting. Feels like an adrenaline response tbh.

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Post by losvedir »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #62

Really enjoying IF and it's had enormous benefits for me. The doc basically said my latest bloods are outstanding, way, way down from the serious telling-off I got 6 months ago. I'm not using someone else's schedule, just listening to my body and pushing boundaries as hard as my fitness will allow. But there are mental "downsides" to reckon with. It's not grumpiness, but rather a "predatory" state. Not quite aggressi…

Huh, I've been intermittent fasting (eating only between 11am - 7pm for me) for most of this year, and haven't noticed any emotional changes like that.

But the physical ones definitely! I feel way healthier and my bloodwork just came back much improved as well.

For me, though, I don't think it has anything at all to do with the time restriction so much as the inadvertent calorie restriction. I've lost 30 lbs since I started, mostly because intermittent fasting has caused me to cut out my late night snacking and my greasy breakfasts.

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Post by losvedir »

nikkwong wrote: post #47
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> more data comes to light which suggests that earlier is better. I have not seen studies like that. All the ones I’ve seen have participants stop eating 3 hours (minimum) before sleep. For example, With an 8 hour eating window and 10:00 sleep, that means eating between 11:00-7:00 giving you a 16 hour fast.

Here is the study I am referring to [1]. As far as studies go, this one is fairly rigorous and of what I would consider to be high quality based on several factors related to the study design. This study in particular looked at early TR (6am-2pm) vs mid afternoon (1pm-8pm) TR vs no TR; and early TR had the greatest metabolic benefits by a long shot: > "Furthermore, eTRF (early TR), but not mTRF (mid-day TR), improved…

Wow, that's really interesting! I hadn't seen anything comparing when you could eat among different time-restricted diets before. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by tsol »

xwdv wrote: post #5
colechristensen wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sauna seems pretty close, it’s just sitting somewhere hot on a regular basis and is quite pleasant. Saw a study recently that showed broad, dose dependent health effects. Personally it really seems to help when I’m overloaded with stress, in a direct immediate way.

It screws up your semen.

Don't sauna in the few days before you plan to conceive. Bikes, among other things, can also screw up your semen. It's not that uncommon, and it's only temporary

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Post by bilsbie »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #37
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> exercise early and also eat early in the day This is slightly contrary to what I’ve learned from Rhonda Patrick. Exercise in the morning, sure, but while still fasting from overnight (black coffee or plain tea ok… does not break the fast). Eat after exercise so that your fast lasts longer. Also, cardio exercise blunts the hunger feeling in many people.

Here’s a piece of COMPLETELY anecdotal data, so do with it what you will. A friend with metabolic syndrome was struggling with weight despite intermittent fasting. She began to wear a continuous glucose monitor. She found that black coffee had the same effect as eating a donut, but if she added a boiled egg, the effect on her glucose was neutral. Now, I don’t know what effect all that has on other metabolic processes…

There’s no glucose in black coffee though. I’m not sure how that’s possible.

Wouldn’t the glucose have to come from somewhere?

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Post by k__ »

stubish wrote: post #59
cnagesh wrote: post #58

If I understand this correctly, the experiment is suggesting to have a gap of 10hr window between any two meals ?

No, all your eating happens in that 10 hour window. You fast for at least 14 hours per day. Easy enough if you eat an early dinner and don't snack after.

Is the position of that window relevant?

So, I sleep 9h, which means, I'm awake 15h.

If I don't eat 2,5h before and after sleeping, would this be enough?

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Post by swyx »

stubish wrote: post #59
cnagesh wrote: post #58

If I understand this correctly, the experiment is suggesting to have a gap of 10hr window between any two meals ?

No, all your eating happens in that 10 hour window. You fast for at least 14 hours per day. Easy enough if you eat an early dinner and don't snack after.

so lunch AND dinner or just early dinner? always feel like these hourly windows are underspecified since you can cram a ton of food in that time

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Post by kuratkull »

tetris11 wrote: post #65
nonrandomstring wrote: post #62

Really enjoying IF and it's had enormous benefits for me. The doc basically said my latest bloods are outstanding, way, way down from the serious telling-off I got 6 months ago. I'm not using someone else's schedule, just listening to my body and pushing boundaries as hard as my fitness will allow. But there are mental "downsides" to reckon with. It's not grumpiness, but rather a "predatory" state. Not quite aggressi…

I know this feeling well. This is a false sense of sharpness caused by undereating. You dont feel hungry or tired, just energized, light and strong. I say false sense of sharpness, because you're actually not that alert. Yes, you can push yourself more, but your brain is in flight/fright mode and not thinking rationally.

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