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Re: AI-powered communication coach

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This seems the epitome of "AI applications" that ride on human weakness, insecurity and disconnection. It's an application for people who have no friends. Any other sincere and observant human being can help you be a better communicator if you feel comfortable asking them to criticise your performance.

Uh, no. It's a coach to train oneself. Your friends don't want to spend fulltime analyzing all your presentations, providing you with trends over time and actionable feedback. Or are you paying your friends to do this work?

> Your friends don't want to spend fulltime analyzing all your presentations

With respect you've no idea what my friends will or won't do for me, or what I will do for them. Maybe your friends won't.

> Or are you paying your friends to do this work?

It's precisely because we're friends that we don't have to pay each other. People can have genuine interests in one another beyond money.

Re: AI-powered communication coach

#43
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this a value judgement or you're just saying? "This app rides on human weakness" sounds like negative framing at least. Because yes, if you had good observant friends, it reduces the need for this for sure. But the human weakness, insecurity and disconnection is already there, and some people have no friends and have trouble communicating well. I think it's good to be skeptical of instances of this kind of work in…

> Is this a value judgement ... sounds like negative framing at least. Yes it is a negative value judgement. I am not trolling or being unnecessarily provocative. I think that, on balance, some technologies are likely to make things worse. Not in general, but to specifically counter the very aim they set out to solve. > the human weakness, insecurity and disconnection is already there I disagree with this. On several…

I think I understand where you're coming from, and largely agree.

Regarding societal weakness/insecurity stemming from disconnecting technologies, I view that as something that's happened to a large degree, and it shapes chunks of the modern landscape as I see it.

Technologies that help to correct that are valuable. Dependencies on others force the development of interpersonal skills, and maybe something like this discourages someone from joining an association like toastmasters or similar. That would be a shame. But on the other hand, depending on the users own flavor of neuroses it may help them feel comfortable enough or develop the interest to prompt them to do something more social. I really don't know, I could see it nudging my past selves either way.

Regardless, thanks for your response. I did need a reminder to take a wider perspective in this context, I appreciate it.

Re: AI-powered communication coach

#44

Why? Why not have my videostream analyzed and the coach synthesize a better communicating videostream? Cut out the feeble middle men and let the machines negotiate with a shopping list of interests ? I dont want to be socially ept, cunning and able, if a machine can do that for me.

> let the machines negotiate

I think you're on the money as to where that's headed.

However, your understanding of technology seems to be entirely as weapons to gain advantage over others. Is that a fair observation?

Might technology have other uses?

Re: AI-powered communication coach

#45
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is this a value judgement ... sounds like negative framing at least. Yes it is a negative value judgement. I am not trolling or being unnecessarily provocative. I think that, on balance, some technologies are likely to make things worse. Not in general, but to specifically counter the very aim they set out to solve. > the human weakness, insecurity and disconnection is already there I disagree with this. On several…

I think I understand where you're coming from, and largely agree. Regarding societal weakness/insecurity stemming from disconnecting technologies, I view that as something that's happened to a large degree, and it shapes chunks of the modern landscape as I see it. Technologies that help to correct that are valuable. Dependencies on others force the development of interpersonal skills, and maybe something like this di…

Thanks for the exchange.

> depending on the users own flavor of neuroses it may help them feel comfortable enough or develop the interest to prompt them to do something more social.

Absolutely. I agree this is real utility. I guess I'm concerned that these are actually outliers used to justify a more troubling project. And maybe more people have crippling anxiety disorders only treatable by machines than I care to admit. It actually reminds me of the arguments around anti-depressants as a gateway to proper therapy. I do hear you.

Re: AI-powered communication coach

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Why? Why not have my videostream analyzed and the coach synthesize a better communicating videostream? Cut out the feeble middle men and let the machines negotiate with a shopping list of interests ? I dont want to be socially ept, cunning and able, if a machine can do that for me.

> let the machines negotiate I think you're on the money as to where that's headed. However, your understanding of technology seems to be entirely as weapons to gain advantage over others. Is that a fair observation? Might technology have other uses?

Thats what nature is. State copying itself until it runs out of matter and energy and starts to copy itself over other stateful creatures. Gras vs flower, flower vs tree, savannah vs forrest, animals for whichever ecosystem feeds them.

Why should be a social apex predator be a inherent save role in human society? Nothing of value there, that cant be reproduced by machines.

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